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To: southernsunshine
In the above statement are you referring to Confederate Rebel’s mindset in the singular, or are you referring to the mindset of all Confederate Rebel’s?

Why is it not surprising that the grey diaper crowd would rather quibble about the placement of an apostrophe than deal with the substance of Gen. Cleyburne's 1863 proposal?

Here again is the General in his own words refuting the ridiculous notion that blacks fought for the confederacy.

"Wherever slavery is once seriously disturbed, whether by the actual presence or the approach of the enemy, or even by a cavalry raid, the whites can no longer with safety to their property openly sympathize with our cause. The fear of their slaves is continually haunting them, and from silence and apprehension many of these soon learn to wish the war stopped on any terms. The next stage is to take the oath to save property, and they become dead to us, if not open enemies. To prevent raids we are forced to scatter our forces, and are not free to move and strike like the enemy; his vulnerable points are carefully selected and fortified depots. Ours are found in every point where there is a slave to set free. All along the lines slavery is comparatively valueless to ns for labor, but of great and increasing worth to the enemy for information. It is an omnipresent spy system, pointing out our valuable men to the enemy, revealing our positions, purposes, and resources, and yet acting so safely and secretly that there is no means to guard against it. Even in the heart of our country, where our hold upon this secret espionage is firmest, it waits but the opening fire of the enemy's battle line to wake it, like a torpid serpent, into venomous activity.

1,204 posted on 04/28/2010 7:04:05 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Well, fancy meeting you here again, tonka truck!

“Why is it not surprising that the grey diaper crowd would rather quibble about the placement of an apostrophe than deal with the substance of Gen. Cleyburne’s 1863 proposal?”

Not quibbling. No problem with misplaced punctuation or spelling errors and such. Been guilty of those errors many times myself. Just want to know if you are painting with that broad brush of your’s again. So, did you intend to discuss just General Cleyburne’s mindset or did you indicate this to be the mindset of all Confederate Rebels?

“Here again is the General in his own words refuting the ridiculous notion that blacks fought for the confederacy.”

As for the infamous General Cleyburne, I indicated yesterday that you and I are both well aware of his sentiments and history. We can sit here all day and swap stories of unsavory Generals and the like, because you see, they existed on both sides. To your specific reference, “.....the ridiculous notion that blacks fought for the confederacy.” I would have to say that you haven’t been keeping up with your studies. Have you not learned anything from the links I so kindly provided you? It doesn’t appear that you have. I acknowlege how time intensive research can be but, the whole truth is there if you simply dedicate yourself to finding it.

There really is much more to Confederate history than that which is taught in public schools. Come to think of it, there is much more to Union history than I was offered in public schools.


1,223 posted on 04/28/2010 9:25:40 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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