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To: Idabilly
Give it a rest.???

Perhaps you could enlighten me. How does a Pennsylvania Congressman's speech bear on the reasons the South seceded? A brief reading of any of the secession resolutions passed by any of the states that seceded proves that slavery was the reason.

That the reasons the north used to justify keeping the South in the Union varied among the players matter not one iota.

I have no interest in a civil war do-over. My complaint is with those who mischaracterize the Declaration of Independence and its principles. The Declaration of Independence is the Touchstone of Conservatism; if we fail to understand its principles, this country is lost. As one American said

"but that sentiment in the Declaration of Independence which gave liberty, not alone to the people of this country, but, I hope, to the world, for all future time. It was that which gave promise that in due time the weight would be lifted from the shoulders of all men. This is a sentiment embodied in the Declaration of Independence. Now, my friends, can this country be saved upon that basis? If it can, I will consider myself one of the happiest men in the world, if I can help to save it. If it cannot be saved upon that principle, it will be truly awful. But if this country cannot be saved without giving up that principle, I was about to say I would rather be assassinated on this spot than surrender it.

He went on to say:

All honor to Jefferson--to the man who, in the concrete pressure of a struggle for national independence by a single people, had the coolness, forecast, and capacity to introduce into a merely revolutionary document, an abstract truth, applicable to all men and all times, and so to embalm it there, that to-day, and in all coming days, it shall be a rebuke and a stumbling-block to the very harbingers of re-appearing tyranny and oppression.

68 posted on 03/11/2010 4:59:14 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: ALPAPilot
I have no interest in a civil war do-over.

Let me help you with the approach for landing...

Secession does not mean war. The reaction to it may or may not cause war, but the act itself is war neutral. So if you can't seperate the two concepts in your mind then you sir are entering a "no fly zone" where Hilter and other tyrants orbit.

69 posted on 03/11/2010 5:08:21 AM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: ALPAPilot
“Perhaps you could enlighten me”

Don't allege that the North cherished racial equality.

Far from it

74 posted on 03/11/2010 5:23:22 AM PST by Idabilly
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To: ALPAPilot
I have no interest in a civil war do-over. My complaint is with those who mischaracterize the Declaration of Independence and its principles.

Nobody wants another civil war. Burning down Taxachusetts as punishment condign, for their having instigated so much misery over the last 400 years or so, has its appeal, but belongs more in the character of divine retribution on a bossy, sinful and prideful Yankee people, and might better be left to the left hand of heaven.

Rather, the work before us is to discern clearly what happened and how the institutions and original intent of the Union were twisted and transformed into an engine of wealth extraction for the benefit of a relatively few people, and to undo all that damage and return the Union to its original spirit of freedom, proportion, and subsidiarity.

108 posted on 03/11/2010 7:36:23 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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