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Noinfringers2,

See seizethecarp post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3130965/posts?page=1017#1017

Many thanks seizethecarp!

Makes it interesting, looks like 0 may have been in limbo for awhile, unbeknownst to his family... just ran on a “home birth” cert....

Up till the time he was fixin’ to run for senator.

Then he needed docs...

then OMG!!! We needs docs!!!! Get Ayers &Co stat! !!

Seizethecarp post #1017 references the FOIA documents and makes an interesting point about how the kid would be viewed in Kenya and Hawaii.

My comments on this:

O SR didn’t run afoul of Hawaii bigamy laws because he was a foreigner; that is what the ins folks said in the docs.

But they recognized BHO /SADO marriage in Hawaii.

So in my estimation, in Hawaii the kid would be legitimate.

Thus the docs would be forged there, because he was born elsewhere and couldn’t get citizenship from that country.

From what seizethecarp said, Kenya didn’t allow bigamy, but did recognise tribal marriages.

O SR was already married to Kezia.

He didn’t marry SADO in a tribal marriage though (would’ve it been OK then?).

So no UK citizenship for the kid.

So if kid born there, his mom was too young to convey US citizenship and so kid would be stateless.

Same could hold if kid was born across the border in canada.

Raises more questions; how (passport-wise) did SADO get the kid back to the us if kid born in kenya?

Probably easier for them to come back to seattle from unwed moms hospital in canada.

So looks like the kid at some point (maybe kindergarten age) had a home birth type Hawaii doc done by his mom or granny. And that is what they used to get him on moms passport.

#1017 reposted; grace g asked question:

“So does this mean that Obama is officially technically a bastard?”

Thread article links to BHO Sr.’s INS FOIA documents but omits the explicit claim in those documents that BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham were married on a date that corroborates the HI divorce record.

See comment #909 in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3130965/posts? page=909#909

On the record in HI it appears that Barry’s claimed parents were legally married and divorced,so in HI Barry would not be a bastard as there is no record that the legality of this marriage was legally contested. The INS notes show a clear intent of INS to contest the marriage based on bigamy IF Sr. attempted to change his status from student to immigrant.

IMO,in Kenya,the tribal marriage to Kezia was legal and bigamy was precluded for tribal marriages under UK Kenyan colonial law. That law has only been changed THIS YEAR to allow legal bigamy.

So in Kenya the Hawaiian marriage would likely have been ruled bigamous and no child of bigamy could become a UK subject...so Barry would NOT have been a dual citizen UK subject at birth...IF he ever claimed UK dual citizenship at birth (there is no evidence of that yet other than a statement made during his campaign).