Kweli Shuhubia interviewer
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McRae and Brother Daniel, the interpreter
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an article from
The Economist,
the full interview,
the full transcript, a quote "Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii."
TRANSLATOR OGOMBE: Yes. MCRAE: Uh, could I ask her, uh, could I ask her about his, uh, his, his, his actual birthplace. I would like to see his birthplace when I, when I come to Kenya in December. Uh, was she, was she, was she present when he was-- VOICE (in background): It is here.20 MCRAE:
Was she present when he was born in Kenya? BROTHER TOM: I think, uh, uh I think-- VOICE (in background): (unintelligible) BROTHER TOM (in background): He is asking her that, uh, he wants to know something that uh, was uh you, was they, was she present when, ah, he was born. Were they they there then? (Male voice in foreign language in background.) TRANSLATOR OGOMBE:
Yes, they say that yes she was. She was present when Obama was born. BROTHER TOM: Uh, uh, I, I will need help. I think, uh I think, I kind of, you know we'll be coming December (unintelligible27) and Vitalis, and I talking to him, so I tell him-- TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (in background, simultaneously): --no, no-- what?!? BROTHER TOM: --that you are a capitalist, that you were a little, that you were a little, a little, a little American bus-- TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (
responding to background voices, sounding distressed): No--yes-- TRANSLATOR OGOMBE (to McRae): No! Obama was not born in Mombasa! He was born in America!
So she does admit she was present when the was born. Then the translators and the others in the family who realize she has just spilled the beans start to panic and - sounds distressed.
Your linked document also makes no attempt to translate what Ms Obama is actually saying. WND played the tape tow Luo tribe mebers fluent in the local dialect. Their conclusion was Sarh Obama said he was born in Mombassa and she was present at the birth.
I'll even tell you you're next move. Get someone who speaks Swahili to listen to Mama Sarah and ask them what she says. Then put it on the internet and come back and post a link to it.