Charming to the last.
"I understand that both of you have the sole criteria for conservatism as being a disdain for George W. Bush which I do not now, nor will ever share with you."
In that case, may the Farce be with you.
Happy Kwanza.
That being said, I was forced, as anyone in a criminal trial, to put forward a factual defense of my absolute conservatism, which I did (and was called a "braggart" for stating the evidence in rebuttal of your charges. That, as the old saying goes, is "you can't win for losing." I did what I had to do. You had no facts to refute me, and so I have won the argument. I AM a conservative activist.
At any rate, it doesn't matter. I will fight liberalism and I will fight Marxism, and you don't want me on your team.
So be it. I'm strong willed and not subject to intimidation by anyone, let alone people whom I neither know, nor respect what I do know.
Consider this at an end. mkjessup, no more harrassment. rabscuttle, if you want to have discussions of issues, that's fine with me. If you want to attack me personally, forget it. (You at least have the self-discipline that mk lacks).
Take er easy guys. The bad guys are out there, and I'm fighting them. You can fight me, but I'm not stopping my fight for conservatism just because you want me to.
Merry Christmas to you both.
HAVING a disdain for. Yikes. I hate typos
In the words of one Joe Wilson...
YOU LIE!
You don't want to have a discussion about anything unless it's favorable to your idol, the RINO George W. Bush.
I have already presented you with facts, and I have even gone to the trouble of verifying some of those facts for you.
Your response was two-fold: one, you wrote that
None of what you said, even if it WERE all valid, negates my point.
which clearly implies that you believe that none of my points were true or valid; and two, you dismissed the verification of the aforementioned facts, using a mixture of sources from all across the political spectrum, as mere "encyclopedieas [sic] of propaganda."
So, ohioWfan, is Fox News considered "propaganda"? Or maybe World Net Daily? Or The Wall Street Journal? Or The Washington Examiner? All of these sources are considered sympathetic to conservative causes, yet you dismissed them as "propaganda."
I would surmise that, according to you, anything that doesn't fit your pre-conceived notion of George W. Bush or doesn't support your distorted perception of him is to be dismissed as "propaganda."
Furthermore, you insinuated that I myself am not grounded in "reality," writing:
That is an undeniable fact which your protestations cannot remove from the world of reality.
Anyways, you, in all cases, evaded having to actually rationally rebut the damning evidence I presented to you; instead, you engaged in ad hominem attacks on both mkjessup and myself, and in multiple cases you not only feigned knowledge of having talked to mkjessup on prior occasions but used gender-based slurs against him.
And, what's even worse, you engaged in political relativism, writing:
I will repeat......President Bush was conservative in many areas and did many conservative things.
SO WHAT?!
If Obama is "conservative" in many areas and manages to do many "conservative" things, will you defend him too, even as he does far more non-"conservative" things?
As far as I am concerned, you are either a RINO, an opportunist, or a GOP hack who is mentally unable to articulate anything beyond merely parroting the usual RNC/NRSC/NRCC talking points and, heck, maybe a few buzz words du jour. Irrespective, at best, you're completely useless to the conservative movement except as a warm body, and at worst, you just make the rest of us look like a bunch of hypocritical, partisan tools.
Oh, and mkjessup, these words are for you:
Yet anytime you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we are denounced as being against their humanitarian goals. They say we are always "against" things, never "for" anything. Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.
Ain't it funny how every valid criticism of Bush, no matter how verifiable, is dismissed as "propaganda," or the individuals raising valid concerns are denounced as "Bush haters," out of touch with "reality," or suffering from "Bush Derangement Syndrome"?
Anyways, as far as I am concerned, anyone here on FR who willfully continues to defend Bush and his record is either stupid or a full-fledged RINO.
thats great...too bad sayin you went to a tea party and made some posters doesnt quite cut it...and no, im not the sole opinion of conservatism...
that 'jagged rock' filled softball i tossed ya yesterday [ @ post 777 ?]was a pretty simple question of your opinion of the definition of conservatism and freedom...
i wouldve respected ANY honest answer, but all i received was fear...of imaginary 'jagged rocks'...
as a parent, a very undeniable and simple answer wouldve been easy to muster for anyone with any charachter and principles worth fighting for, which unfortunately it seems are lacking from you...
yeah i know, im so vile and all, but i threw a punch with the full knowledge that doing so was a risk, and i was willing to go nuclear to prove a point...
some things are worth fighting for...the future of my family and neighborhood is worth my personal loss...
i have yet to check the 'other' thread, but im betting that o hasnt bothered to pick up that gun to save someone else, and unfortunately, if thats the case, then I truly do consider you a rino... and as much or more threat to my family as the commies youd 'compromise' with on any issue that might be a little risky to you personally...
Im tired and I think that this thread is too far gone to be instructive to fencesitters, so I plan on moving forward and fighting all enmies, foreign and domestic, that would enslave my babies...
lead, follow or get the hell outta the way, ya know...???