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Schwarzenegger Urges Residents in Path of Flames to Flee as Fire Roars in Three Directions
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 30, 2009 | 11:21 am

Posted on 08/30/2009 1:48:13 PM PDT by kellynla

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today urged residents in fire evacuation zones to flee as firefighters predicted another difficult day battling a wildfire that has burned 35,000 acres and threatened more than 12,000 homes from Acton to Altadena.

Schwarzenegger noted at a morning press conference that three residents in Big Tujunga Canyon suffered serious burns trying in vain to save their homes Saturday.

"There will be people who don't listen," the governor said at the fire command post in Lake View Terrace. ". . . Move as soon as [firefighters] say to move."

Although thousands of homes are covered in the evacuation orders, many residents have stayed behind, with some vowing to fight to protect their homes from the Station fire.

The fire line now extends about 19 miles east to west. The governor and other elected officials praised firefighters for successfully protecting subdivisions in the foothills.

With temperatures expected to reach the mid- to high 90s today in the fire areas, officials said they were anticipating extreme fire conditions, mirroring Saturday’s, when flames leapt as high as 80 feet and spread at a rate of about 2.5 miles an hour.

More than 2,000 fire personnel now are deployed fighting the Station fire.

In the Acton area, mandatory evacuations have been ordered along the 14 Freeway from Soledad Canyon Road to Crown Valley Road and along Aliso Canyon Road from Soledad Canyon Road to Angeles Forest Highway.

The California Highway Patrol has also closed the onramps and offramps to the 14 Freeway at Soledad Canyon Road, Agua Dulce, Escondido Canyon Road, Red Rover Mine Road and Crown Valley Road. They said they were concerned that fire behavior in the area could become extreme as they were expecting the wind to shift about 10 a.m.

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To: dalereed

Actually, previous gov’t leaders wanted to do alot of underbrush clearing and controlled burns in a number of area that throughout CA. It was the environmental groups that sued to stop them. So now we have this reoccuring problem..


81 posted on 08/30/2009 4:58:24 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Cementjungle

210 westbound.


82 posted on 08/30/2009 5:00:27 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: ari-freedom; afraidfortherepublic
no, I actually agree with you. I was just parodying those who think that anyone who doesn’t believe that they can build anywhere they want must be some kind of envirowacko.

People believe that because it is true, regardless of what you two envirowacko control freaks think.

83 posted on 08/30/2009 5:01:41 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Always Independent

We’ve had numerus brush/forest fires every year sinve i’ve been here for the last 72 years.

Pay your home insurance and forget it!

If my home in Glendale burns down so what!


84 posted on 08/30/2009 5:02:22 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Always Independent

Not familiar with that one. I have relatives who live up on Alta Canyada Road in La Canyada Flintridge... I guess they’re in the middle of all this.


85 posted on 08/30/2009 5:02:54 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: kellynla

“Get to da Choppah...”


86 posted on 08/30/2009 5:07:40 PM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: dalereed
Stay out of California!!!

Thanks, I will. I wouldn't visit your state if you paid me. Besides, what FR provision prohibits me from commenting on the CA threads?

87 posted on 08/30/2009 5:17:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: meyer

ROFL


88 posted on 08/30/2009 5:17:28 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“what FR provision prohibits me from commenting on the CA threads?”

Nothing except that it doesn’t concern you.

If I choose to live in a fire zone, pay my insurance and get burned out it’s none of your damn business or anyone elses!


89 posted on 08/30/2009 5:21:13 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

OK! You do that then!


90 posted on 08/30/2009 5:24:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Man can build houses safely on such hillsides, they do not have to be planted in roses — better a family bloom than a rose.

It take real judgment for a local council to say yes — that plan will work to prevent your house from sliding down. But that judgment when made and followed up on in earnest makes mankind the better.

The rose bushes scream out — “Men! You made yourself lesser than you could be.”


91 posted on 08/30/2009 5:28:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have for all my life, including my current home for the last 43 years and nothing is going to change!


92 posted on 08/30/2009 5:28:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

In that case it is the insurance and the mortgages which ensnares us all together, as last September proved.


93 posted on 08/30/2009 5:30:13 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Insurance is cheap as far as i’m concerned, my fire insurance only costs me $1400/year.

As far as mortgages, nobody gets snared except deadbeats that shouldn’t ever be allowed to purchase a home.


94 posted on 08/30/2009 5:38:33 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: kellynla
Yes AGAIN we know that the Feds are responsible for National Forests but what difference does that make? The same poor Forest Management goes on in the Federal System. The practice of cleaning and thinning and removing fuels that would result in healthy forests regardless of whether they are state forests or federal forests.

It's odd that the Sierra Club is one of the principle organizations opposing the practices that could bring forests back into equilibrium. This is a quintessential California Organization. It's run primarily by SF Bay Area Suburbanites. So a lot of the responsibilities do in fact rest with California. And I know this because I live in SF Bay Area and I've argued with these idiots time and time again. They don't care about the damage they do. They don't care about how many homes are destroyed. They don't care how many people are killed. They don't care how many animals are burned to death. These are San Francisco sickos!
95 posted on 08/30/2009 5:59:41 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: dalereed

You and me and the rest of us are snared in the mortgages — that’s as real as the fire. Ideals don’t stop fires and ideals of what mortgages should be written aren’t stopping all of us from being snared in bad ones — OUR government is buying them and insuring them.

It’s like the house built at the bottom of mudslide hill. We can build it to any code we’d like, but if the guy up the hill from us is a slacker, we are in danger.


96 posted on 08/30/2009 6:00:38 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

“Ideals don’t stop fires and ideals of what mortgages should be written aren’t stopping all of us from being snared in bad ones — OUR government is buying them and insuring them.”

Return to the rules when I bought my home, you put down 20% minimum and your payments, insurance, and taxes couldn’t exceed 30% of your income and there wasn’t any government insurance, and the problem is eliminated.

If you can’t meet those requirements you have no business having a home!!!

As far as your mud slide, buy adequate insurance and your neighbors mud slide doesn’t make any difference.


97 posted on 08/30/2009 6:11:37 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Re Mortgages: That WOULD BE good, but it IS NOT the present circumstance.

Re Mudslides: All the insurance in the world would not allow your family to wake up the next morning.


98 posted on 08/30/2009 6:16:23 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

“Re Mortgages: That WOULD BE good, but it IS NOT the present circumstance.”

That’s the fault of Congress and Bush and all those people in trouble belong out in the street with nothing if for no other reason than being stupid!


99 posted on 08/30/2009 6:20:51 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: calex59

What is true is that people who choose to live in areas that are *not* prone to natural disasters every single year are a little tired of paying billions of govt disaster relief $$$ to those who choose not to listen to common sense and believe they are somehow invulnerable.
You shouldn’t be able to make any stupid decisions you want *if* they screw other people.
The same was true for katrina. Here we had a city that’s a soup bowl below sea level. Why were people allowed to live there? And when disaster did inevitably strike, everyone is upset.


100 posted on 08/30/2009 6:33:46 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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