I made the following post several days ago & then never posted, thinking not relevent to board’s discussion, but since BP2 raises issue, here it is. My purpose was to construct a scenerio that made SENSE (”sense” being the operative word) and best fit the few facts that we know, in keeping with what we have gleaned from the psychological makeup of all the parties involved.
Observations and a hypothetical to pick apart:
What I find curious is that Susan Blake says she saw Ann & baby 3rd week of Aug. 1961 in Washington and taught her to change diapers, (& this video is pulled out of existence) BUT
Mary Toutonghi said she baby sat for infant Obama “for two or three months, when he was seven months old”
Mary: “We managed the house and they had the rooms on the first floor to the right, immediately above the garage
. Each of the rooms on that floor comprised a one-bedroom apartment. I can’t remember when she moved in, but the baby was seven months old.”
“My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year,” Toutonghi recalled. “So, that would make the time around February and March 1962.”
Mary;s testimony is fairly specific. It seems unlikely that Ann & baby were actually living in WA until she moves into Mary’s house when baby was 7mos old. Would she arrive with newborn, settle into an apt, only to move into another apt a few months later? Would Ann had to have actually been in Washington in 3rd week of Aug for extension courses? doubtful.
Corsi makes the following 2 statements (contradictory?) in article referenced by Natural Born:
“Obama’s mother resurfaces in Seattle
Dunham’s transcript from the University of Washington documents she was enrolled for two extension courses beginning Aug. 19, 1961:
The University of Washington has documented to WND that the summer quarter 1961 ended Aug. 18.
Fall quarter classes on campus began Sept. 25, 1961, with the university communicating to WND that Dunham’s transcript reveals extension courses that appeared to involve a combination of independent study and night courses.”
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She can be enrolled Aug 19 without attending classes. Another Freeper aware of univ & time period under discussion said the place is deserted that time of year.
Neither Mary or Susan place Obama, Sr with Ann when they see her with newborn BHO or 7mos BHO..
Why did family move to Hawaii? Expensive move. I do not buy the “father Stanley had a good job prospect at a big furniture store” theory. Assuming that she did not get pregnant in Washington (necessitating the move to Hawaii), I keep thinking about something Fred Nerks said about CPUSA relocating people.
If Susan and Mary are to be believed (as disinterested parties) we know -— for a fact-—that BHO was 7 mos old in Feb/Mar 1962.
Set aside, for a moment, all of BHO’s verbal & written narrative (an important point because narrative is a critical theme for Obama (he said Dems lost to Repubs because Dems didn’t have a NARRATIVE); his narratives have dual purpose, one of which functions as sleight-of-hand)-— what testimony is there of Ann’s & Obama’s relationship? I can only remember Abercrombie (& we do not consider him a disinterested party).
Assume for a moment that 1) she did not want to move to Hawaii; I think there is testimony from friends that she was upset that her father would not let her go to U of Chicago; 2) after apologizing all her life that she was Stanley because her father wanted a boy, she now decides to introduce herself as Ann.
3) She is ready to cut loose, but she is still tethered. She starts U of Hawaii, meets Obama, gets pregnant quickly. 4) Assume, on her part at least, that their relationship was sexual infatuation and not love, and that prospects of a baby interrupt her educational plans.
5) Abortion is out of the question and whether she wants a marriage or not, so is marriage because Obama is legally married in Kenya. As BP2 has said several times, for them to marry in Hawaii constitutes bigamy.
Here’s the hypothesis: What if all the actions taken (and not taken) are to give the baby his (or, a) father’s name. Had she had the baby in Hawaii, could she do that? BUT if they go to Kenya, they can marry (him, tribally; her legally?) and get a birth certificate with Obama as the father.
I don’t think there is any evidence any of Obama’s family ever met Ann, so perhaps they never went to his village (family would not have even needed to know Obama was ever there). Kezia was in Nairobi (if she knew they were, she would be the only Kenyan having to keep a secret). Obama promises he will return after his education.
Ann, Obama, and baby leave Africa-— Ann & baby headed for Seattle, where she can register for school, and Obama for Hawaii to start new semester. If the plan was to get a Hawaii birth certificate, Ann then goes to Hawaii, takes care of business, and goes back Seattle to school to settle into Winter semester (when baby is 7mos old)
With Kenyan birth certificate, a Hawaii birth certificate can be obtained with Obama as father. The marriage date/place on divorce papers is fictitious & disguises facts that they married so close to due date in Kenya. No harm because it has been pointed out that at that time in Hawaii one could get a legal divorce without having been legally married. And that is another fact we know for sure -— Ann & Obama got a legal divorce.
Nothing of this is revelatory, but I have tried to think of a working scenario that best fits only the facts we know (without BHO’s narrative) and the motives that may have been operative in all the players involved.
