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To: thouworm; Fred Nerks; hoosiermama

I don’t think that link is ever going to work; looks like blogger last posted in 2008, but I found this & it does work;

http://www.4shared.com/file/70261589/96c548e5/Dreams_from_My_Father__Barack_Obama__2004.html

and this Audacity of Hope is searchable:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/5e7212e6-aed4-4c68-bcd5-af417e448278/Obama,-Barack-—The-Audacity-Of-Hope

Back to original question: I cannot find in “Dreams” anything about late-pregnancy visit to Kenya.. In fact, I seem to find the contrary. On page 218ff there follows many pages as if grandmother is talking (this has probably been sourced on FR long ago but since question is raised...)

This is Obama writing as if grandmother is writing) Not much help here except to note, if facts are not true, he gets to tell the story with deniability because it is grandmother’s recollection :

“One year after Barack and Kezia were married, Roy was born. Two years later came Auma. To support this family, Barack had to take any work he could find, and he finally convinced another Arab, named Suleiman, to take him on as an office boy. But Barack remained deeply depressed, almost desperate. Many of his age mates from Maseno, the ones who were not as gifted as him, were already leaving for Makarere University in Ugand Some had even gone to London to study. They could expect big jobs when they returned to a liberated Kenya. Barack saw that he might end up working as the clerk of these men for the rest of his life.

Then, good fortune struck, in the form of two American women. They were teaching in Nairobi, connected to some religious organization, I think, and one day they came into the office where Barack was working. Your father struck a conversation with them, and soon these women became his friends. They loaned him books to read and invited him their house, and when they saw how smart he was, they told him that he should go to a university. He explained that had no money and no secondary school certificate, but these women said they could arrange for him to take a correspondence course that would give him the certificate he needed. If he was successful, they said, they would try to help him get into a university in America....

He still had no money, though, and no university had yet accepted him.... So Barack wrote to universities in America. He wrote and he wrote. Finally, a university in Hawaii wrote back and told him they would give him a scholarship. No one knew where this place was, but Barack didn’t care. He gathered up his pregnant wife and son and dropped them off with me, and in less than a month he was gone.

What happened in America, I cannot say. I know that after less than two years we received a letter from Barack saying that he had met this American girl, Ann, and that he would like to marry her. Now, Barry, you have heard that your grandfather disapproved of this marriage. This is true, but it is not for the reasons you say. You see, Onyango did not believe your father was behaving responsibly.

He wrote back to Barack, saying, “How can you marry this white woman when you have responsibilities at home? Will this woman return with you and live as a Luo woman? Will she accept that you already have a wife and children? I have not heard of white people understanding such things. Their women are jealous and used to being pampered. But if I am wrong in this matter, let the girl’s father come to my hut and discuss the situation properly. For this is the affairs of elders, not children.” He also wrote to your grandfather Stanley and said many of these same things.

As you know, your father went ahead with the marriage. He only told Onyango what had happened after you were born. We are all happy that this marriage took place, because without it we would not have you here with us now. But your grandfather was very angry at the time, and threatened to have Barack’s visa revoked. And because he had lived with white people, perhaps Onyango did understand the white people’s customs better than Barack did. For when Barack finally returned to Kenya, we discovered that you and your mother had stayed behind, just as Onyango had warned.

Soon after Barack came, a white woman arrived in Kisumu looking for him. At first we thought this must be your mother, Ann. Barack had to explain that this was a different woman, Ruth. He said that he had met her at Harvard and that she had followed him to Kenya without his knowledge. Your grandfather didn’t believe this story and thought that again Barack had disobeyed him. But I wasn’t so sure, for, in fact, Barack did seem reluctant to marry Ruth at first. I’m not sure what finally swayed him.

Maybe he felt Ruth would be better suited to his new life. Or maybe he heard gossip that Kezia had enjoyed herself too much during his absence, even though I told him that this gossip was not true. Or maybe he just cared for Ruth more than he liked to admit. “

I checked “Audacity,” thinking poster may have mixed up books. Couldn’t find any reference there either.


9,133 posted on 08/13/2009 11:38:40 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

thanks, I didn’t expect that statement would be found, we would have been all over it...

you deserve a medal! (Might pay you now to wash out your mind.)


9,134 posted on 08/13/2009 11:49:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: thouworm; Fred Nerks

So what happened next? Did Stanley Armour go on the boat to Kenya with Stanley Anne and Barack Sr?


What happened in America, I cannot say. I know that after less than two years we received a letter from Barack saying that he had met this American girl, Ann, and that he would like to marry her. Now, Barry, you have heard that your grandfather disapproved of this marriage. This is true, but it is not for the reasons you say. You see, Onyango did not believe your father was behaving responsibly.

He wrote back to Barack, saying, “How can you marry this white woman when you have responsibilities at home? Will this woman return with you and live as a Luo woman? Will she accept that you already have a wife and children? I have not heard of white people understanding such things. Their women are jealous and used to being pampered. But if I am wrong in this matter, let the girl’s father come to my hut and discuss the situation properly. For this is the affairs of elders, not children.” He also wrote to your grandfather Stanley and said many of these same things.


9,136 posted on 08/14/2009 12:39:21 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: thouworm; LucyT; STARWISE

Books are revised when new editions come out. We really need first editions of each book. Is that possible or have they all been bought up?


9,163 posted on 08/14/2009 8:35:07 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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