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To: WhiskeyX

WhiskeyX,

The illegal accessing of the passport files plus the fact that most people feel Indonesia would be unlikely to cooperate is what I meant when I asked the question “does this matter?”

I also was hoping that, if he was piggy-backed on mom’s passport, there might be some hope of finding her records. I don’t recall seeing anyone discuss her passport files.

Since it is common knowledge that he was in Indonesia and would have been required to take citizenship to be adopted, no one in a position to do so has challenged his eligibility because of it. Since he was a child and his U.S. citizenship was renounced by someone else on his behalf, he could still be a U.S. citizen (if he was born in the U.S. - not likely) again, but not a natural born one if I have interpreted the many posts on the subject correctly.

Which brings me to another question. My husband and I spent an hour last night having a speculative conversation about the “miracle” of B.H. Obama.

Why is it, when so many people in Washington from the Senate to the CIA, SCOTUS, etc. know about Barry’s Kenyan father and about the Indonesia interlude, why have they and are they still playing dumb? Every single one of them! I don’t buy the thesis that they are all cowed by the idea that going after him would be tantamount to inciting race riots. The guy is a nightmare and almost anything would be preferable to 3+ years or more of his “rule.” So what the heck is it?

We came up with some rather outlandish theories including a foreign enemy with the ability to explode strategically buried nukes should their boy be challenged. Have you given this much thought?


8,815 posted on 08/12/2009 7:30:00 AM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: Natural Born 54

The reasons are as varied as the persons involved. George Washington for superb reasons decried party politics as the ruination of a democracy being familiar with the partisan politics of the rioters in ancient Byzantium (Late Roman Empire). Some people develop a life long, unreasoning, and irrational attachment and loyalty to a political party in total disregard of reality and real world events. Others are motivated a a myriad of their own special interests in complete disregard of the consequences to others and their own families and persons.

Communism and socialism has very deep roots in America, and there has been a long and sustained effort to gain control of America’s key social and political institutions, while most Americans have remained oblivious to their takeover.

The maternal grandfather is reported to have been a target of an FBI invesigation during WWII regarding his Communist affiliations and stolen secret blueprints of the B-29 Boeing Superfortress strategic bomber. The mother likewise sought to establish connections to Communism with her class in Russian, relationships with Barack Hussein Obama Sr., and Frank Marshall Davis. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. continued this generations long acquaintance with communists and socialists throughout his entire life with his mother, grandfather, Frank Marshall Davis, fellow students and Marxists at Occidental College, mentoring by Saul Alinsky’s organization, contract with a socialist-Marxist political chapter in Chicago for his Illinois state senator candidacy, and current extensive appointments of socialists and Communists in his current Administration.

Consequently, those people who have been oblivious to these decades long struggles are now surprised and bewildered by the sheer vehemance and overbearing arrogance of the final and impatient seizure of American society by the coalition of determined socialists-communists.

Given the concerted effort by several of American society’s subverted Estates to use disinformation, pettifoggery, strawmen, and red herrings to further confuse an American Public already generally ignorant and misinformed about their history and laws, it can hardly be surprising that their understanding and response is accordingly confused and misdirected. Add to it the general disrespect and disregard for the Constitution and citizenship laws, and you find an atmosphere tailor made for abuse by a determined domestic enemy of the Constitution. See for example the full PDF for the publication:

BIRTH CERTIFICATE FRAUD. Department of Health and Human Services OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL. JUNE GIBBS BROWN Inspector General, SEPTEMBER 2000, 0EI-07-99-00570.
Birth Certificate Fraud is Seldom Prosecuted
Virtually all of the Federal and State agency staff we talked with indicate birth certificate fraud is seldom prosecuted unless it can be linked to large dollar losses or other punishable crimes. Most staff also indicate that many prosecutors are reluctant, or refuse to take birth certificate fraud cases in which the only charge is attempting to obtain another individual’s birth certificate, or counterfeiting or altering a birth certificate. At the same time, misconceptions exist surrounding the security and integrity of birth certificates.


8,844 posted on 08/12/2009 9:50:26 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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