[BP2]

My "how do you get by the October 1963" comment was addressed to your proposition that Obama might have been born in Zanzibar.

I'm a fan of timelines, so here's one that includes an event that may have occurred in Mombasa in August 1961:

1888 - Germany acquires the right of collecting duties on the coast and in 1890, temporarily takes over the coastal strip on payment of £200,000 to the Sultan of Zanzibar.

1895 - Via various agreements, the Brits lease the strategically-important Ten-Mile Strip coastal region from the Sultan of Zanzibar for £11,000 per year. The Sultan RETAINS OWNERSHIP despite occupation by the British, which is UNIQUE from the other lands in the British and German Protectorates (meaning that Obama might be viewed as a Native Born Subject of the Sultan of Zanzibar at birth in 1961).

Aug 4, 1961 - Obama Jr is born in the 10-Mile Strip, in Mombasa. His mother's plan was for him to be born in Hawaii, possibly Washington state, after finding out about Obama SR's Kenyan marriage. But because of flight restrictions, she is not allowed to fly. She would have gone by ship, but she may have given birth by sea - very undesirable. She flies out as soon as she is physically able a few days later to Seattle.

Oct 5, 1963 - An agreement is executed in the form of an exchange of letters between the Prime Ministers of Kenya and Zanzibar. The 10-mile strip gained its sovereignty before the rest of what would become Kenya to avoid (re)annexation by Zanzibar -- if Zanzibar reneged, or the REST of Kenya failed to become a republic.

Dec 10, 1963 - Zanzibar declares independence from the UK.

Dec 12, 1963 - Kenya declares independence from the UK, signing its Constitution. As part of the Oct 5th agreement with Zanzibar -- and to solidify Kenya's claim to the 10-Mile Strip -- the Kadhi's Court, Chief Kadhi and Kadhis are established under Section 66 of the Constitution of Kenya.

Jan 12, 1964 - a revolution take place in Zanzibar, in which the Sultan and his cabinet are forced to flee

Oct 29, 1964 - Zanzibar becomes the "United Republic of Tanzania", following the Revolution of January 1964 and the merger of Tanganyika via the Articles of Union signed in April 1964

Dec 12, 1964 - Kenya officially becomes the "Republic of Kenya"

[Fred Nerks]

Curiously...Obama Sr’s FATHER CONVERTED TO ISLAM IN ZANZIBAR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.

“...Barack Obama Sr. was the son of Habiba Akumu Nyanjango of Karabondi, Kenya, the second wife. However, he was raised by Onyango’s third wife, Sarah Ogwel of Kogelo, after Akumu left her family and separated from her husband in 1945.[3][10] Before working as a cook for missionaries in Nairobi, Onyango had travelled widely, enlisting in the British colonial forces and visiting Europe, India, and Zanzibar, where he converted from Roman Catholicism to Islam and took the name Hussein Onyango Obama...”

It’s from wiki...but

[MestaMachine]

“Aug 4, 1961 - Obama Jr is born in the 10-Mile Strip, in Mombasa.”

*1960 The state of emergency imposed on 1952 was lifted. The British agreed to set a date for the transition to majority rule. The Kenya African National Union (KANU), a descendant of KAU, was formed. The KANU (led by Kenyatta, Oginga Odinga, and Tom Mboya) was formed by the country’s two largest ethnic groups, the Kikuyu and Luo.

*1961 Kenyatta was released from detention. The British were forced to introduce a new policy which allowed Africans to buy and farm the White Highlands. Kenya’s first pre-independence general elections were held. The KANU defeated the Kenya African Democratic Union (KADU). The KADU (led by Masinde Muliro, Daniel arap Moi, and Ronald Ngala) represented smaller and less advantaged ethnic groups of the Great Rift Valley and coastal areas, including the Kalenjin. The KADU advocated ***Majimboism (regionalism in Swahili) which would create ethnic-based, semi-autonomous regions.***

*Dec 1963 The constitution set up a multi-party system. Three political parties, the KANU, KADU, and the African People’s Party (APP), contested the second general elections. The KANU won and ***Majimboism was abandoned.***

[hoosiermama]

Interesting...

What is this all about?

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[MestaMachine]

There is a lot of confusion surrounding Zanzibar vs Kenya, especially regarding the Coast Province. Depending on who claimed what, there could have been any number of official documents from both places that unintentionally overlapped.

It is possible that more than one official record of birth exists in several different places, but ALL of them would be in the Brit Archives since they were still overseeing their protectorate at the time.

[Jedidah]

What if she DID give birth at sea?

Long shot, certainly, but I have found Fred Nerks’ posts on the “African Colonial” thread fascinating, including his mentions of the Black Star Line and shipping to and from Ghana.

Were they strictly freighters, or was there passenger service? Would there be 1961 passenger — or even birth or marriage — records of voyages on those ships?

Mombasa has a deep harbor. Did the Black Star Line operate there?

Ann Dunham traveled, and the easiest and fastest way is by air. However, it’s also the most expensive. I keep wondering how this teenager, the daughter of parents of moderate means, supposed wife to a well-connected student with no particular means of support, found the money to fly all over the world.

It would certainly be interesting to see if she appears on any incoming or outgoing passenger manifest anytime in 1961.

Again, a very long shot, but this is one weird story.