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To: PeaceBeWithYou

The point is that “natural born” (the English term) did not come from Vattel. The term “natural born” in fact was taken from English common law, as the post and the link clearly state.

That the term “natural born” was used at all indicates that they were using a term known to them from English common law. Were they to have used Vattel as their intended meaning and been intelligent fellows, the LAST thing they would do is use a term that was so obviously taken from English common law.

That you all cannot see this is a choice you have made to be intellectually dishonest. Either that or you’re just stupid.


8,122 posted on 08/08/2009 11:06:01 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Technical Editor
"The point is that “natural born” (the English term) did not come from Vattel." Um Justice Marshall doesn't seem to agree with your assertion! He seems to be asserting that the Constitutional term was in fact derived in meaning from Vattel:

Justice Marshall writing in the minority opinon in the Venus case defined native born, or indigenes:

The Supreme Court of the United States in THE VENUS relied upon Vattel’s “Law of Nations” as the authority in determining the citizenship status of a “domicil”. With regard to Vattel, THE VENUS court written in the minority specifically stated, “Vattel, …is more explicit and more satisfactory on it [CITIZENSHIP ISSUES] than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says, ‘the citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or indigenes, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

8,131 posted on 08/08/2009 11:29:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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