I am speaking as a lawyer with 40 years of experience and who tried hundreds of divorces.
A couple of points.
1. I have never seen a court require the filing of a birth certificate in a divorce except where the defendant/father/husband denies in his answer that he is the father. Since Obama Sr. did not file an answer, the averment in Ann’s petition that Sr. was the father of Jr. is taken as admitted by default.
2. You did not mention the case’s docket entries. If a birth certificate had been filed separately, there would be an entry in the court docket identifying what was filed (i.e. a birth certificate) and the date it was filed.
3. If the document showing up on the Internet is a jpeg copy of the document filed in the divorce court, there are two problems: (a) There are no staple holes at the top from where it was stapled to a blue binder, which was required by all courts. (b) Depending on the way it was processed and mailed there would be no folds or 3 folds on the document. Under no circumstances would there be all those multiple irregular folds as shown.
You people are grasping at straws. You convoluted reasoning reminds me of a bowl of spaghetti, all twisted together in a pile.
I believe that you birthers want him out of the White House by any means whatsoever, legal or illegal. I have seen lies, forged documents, intentional misinterpretations of the law, attempts to intimidate judges and government officials, the advocacy of the violent overthrow of the government (this is treason punishable by death, remember Julius and Ethel Rosenberg).
You Birthers are a disgrace to America.
We really need some left-wing noobie troll to come here bearing false facts and telling us who is a disgrace.
Your entire life and ideology is a disgrace to all who love freedom.
Leftists are not only a disgrace but are ruining the country and the entire world.
LOL. Answering barackobama.com’s call to rally the troops, I see. He does needs all he can get, as it seems he's having a HARD time motivating his base.
Come on ... no law degree is necessary for this ... use your imagination ... put yourself back to early-1964, and pretend you're Judge King in the courtroom:
— three-year-old Obama JR wasn't probably present in the court room of the CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, now defunct. Ann Dunman, his mother, may have shown a picture to the judge. Or Obama JR may have been present, and the judge saw the child — who knows?
— the man who Ann claimed was the father, Obama SR, wasn't a participating father. The likelihood of him flying nearly 5,000 miles to Hawaii to protest the divorce, or ask for custody, was surely seen as very remote. Sure enough, he didn't even respond to the notification back in Boston — a no-show.
— Marriage Certificate? ALL modern searches by private investigators have NOT revealed it. It may exist, but it's not even searchable on Hawaiian document databases. The judge may not have asked to see that anyway — which is not necessary per se to award custody. Blood is thicker than water, anyway ... but someone has to get custody of the child, biologically-proven parents, relatives or the state of Hawaii ...
— there's no DNA testing in the 1960s.
— child smuggling DID take place in the 60s, as did child abduction.
And here's Ann, a lily-white 21-year-old woman from Kansas, asking for custody of a “mulatto” mixed-race baby that she claims to be hers. To put it in context: Black people only made up 0.8 percent of the Hawaiian population in 1960 and 1970. It's not racist to point this out — it's fact from the US Census and a reality of that racially-charged era — it would have been noticed.
So Judge King was likely curious, if not suspicious — most responsible judges, looking past the sobbing wife and her pin-stripped attorney, would be pondering "what's really going on here? Her husband is pursuing a doctorate in economics at Harvard, and yet she wants no child support or alimony ... hmmm."
He's not going to deny her a divorce as she claims "grievous mental suffering." BUT how's Judge King going to award custody — off of Ann's good word? I don't think so ... he'd turn to prima facie. I can hear his words now:
“I'm going to ask for the mother to provide a copy of the birth certificate at our next hearing in March (1964). So ordered.”Here’s the HAWAI‘I FAMILY COURT RULES for some reference on this:
And keep in mind that Hawaiian law in the 1960s, especially in this old Circuit Court that dates back to when Hawaii had a King, didn't have such firm laws in place as we have today.
Everything wasn't codified as it is today. Judges had more discretion in those years shortly after statehood — and Judge King, who went on to be a Senior Judge at the US District Court in District of Hawaii — would have been irresponsible to NOT have exercised that discretion in such a situation.
Please take your "You people are grasping at straws" rhetoric elsewhere. If you weren't truly concerned about Mr. Obama's NBC status, you wouldn't be wasting your time conversing with people labeled by the Left as "crazy conspiracy nuts". LOL
Had to make that dump twice? ... Forget to wipe yourself after the first dump, n00b?
Yeah but they're fun to watch.
You Birthers are a disgrace to America.
And the reputation of lawyers rank between skunks and stink bugs.
You are a disgraceful obama crotch sniffer
CYMRAEG
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Thank you ..!! You guys must have 20 monitors
and 10 arms working simultaneously to fumigate
all these intruding alien critters.