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To: Mojave
There is a Constitutional "scholar" who deems himself eligible to the Presidency despite very murky circumstances surrounding birth and a nonresident alien father, Mojave. So, that particular appeal to authority flops spectacularly. Scholars don't get to make Constitutional Amendments, and scholars don't make the law.

The American colonists revolted against England, and were particularly chafed by the monarchy. The Founders were known to be highly impressed with The Law Of Nations, it was being cited as early as 1764 by Samuel Adams, John Adams and James Otis, the framers were in possession of it at the Philadelphia Convention, numerous signers of the Constitution quoted it, several quoting specifically from the natural born citizen definition provided therein, and the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Jay, was the very person who suggested that the natural born citizen requirement be inserted into the Constitution prior to ratification, and he cited Vattel in his own decisions as Chief Justice.

So, if you prefer to be governed by feudal concepts of citizenship under a monarchy, go right ahead. I'm still a sovereign citizen, natural born of the soil and of two citizen parents, which is the understanding of the term that multiple individuals involved in creating our Constitutional Republic embraced upon the advice of John Jay.

The only mystery and the only vagueness about the term is promulgated and perpetuated by individuals and groups who wish to undermine and eventually abandon the requirement.

7,198 posted on 08/05/2009 11:55:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
"There are citizens born on US soil of citizens, who are natural born citizens.”

Provide me with an undisputed authority on that statement, and I will be delighted.

WHAT!!!??? Are you claiming there are different kinds of natural born citizens? The Constitution only has one kind!

With that, I'm off to bed, lol.

7,204 posted on 08/06/2009 12:03:14 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
There is a Constitutional "scholar" who deems himself eligible to the Presidency despite very murky circumstances surrounding birth and a nonresident alien father, Mojave.

You deem Barack Obama the equivalent of Edwin Meese, the former Attorney General of the United States under Ronald Reagan and the hundred or so contributing scholars for the Heritage Foundation? Fascinating.

BTW, thanks for outing yourself.

7,205 posted on 08/06/2009 12:03:49 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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