And how many types of born citizens are there? And how many types of naturalized citizens are there? It's not as if, by mentioning born and naturalized, this Amendment enumerated the only allowed types of citizenship. There clearly are citizens naturalized by statute. There are naturalized citizens who undergo a process of naturalization. There are citizens born of nonresident aliens, who are not anything but citizens per the plain language of the Amendment. There are citizens born overseas of citzen parents, per the language from 1795. There are citizens born on US soil of citizens, who are natural born citizens.
The 14th extended the rights and obligations of citizenship to former slaves. It did not in any way redefine the requirements for eligibility to the office of President.
Wong Kim Ark was not found to be a natural born citizen. Show me where the decision states that he was. You can't, because he wasn't.
Therefore, there was nothing in Ark to "supercede" Happersett. What is problematic for your contention, regarding the purported impact of the 14th, is that Happersett provides a definition for the term natural born citizen that is not conducive at all, to such a contention. Two citizen parents, plural, born of the soil, and never in doubt.
Correct. The dicta which much of the opinion is made up of in Wong Ark is latched onto by the he is a natural born citizen crowd. And you have to wade through the dicta to find the 'core legal reasoning' that supports the holding of the majority opinion.
The U.S. Code tells us who is a citizen at birth!!!!
“There are citizens born on US soil of citizens, who are natural born citizens.”
Provide me with an undisputed authority on that statement, and I will be delighted.
The 14th says nothing about presidential eligibility, yes. But it does say there are two kind of citizens. Born and naturalized. If you are not BORN a citizen, you must be naturalized. Wong held that if you are BORN in the U.S., you are a citizen at birth. The 14th Amendment says there are two kinds of citizens: born and naturalized. On or off. That’s it. Anyone not BORN a citizen (and the U.S. Code tells us who IS born a citizen) must be naturalized. How many ways there are to be naturalized is totally irrelevant.
Citizen at birth and natural born citizen and native-born citizen are used interchangeably by the Supreme Court.
Look, if you are are a citizen at birth, you cannot be a naturalized citizen, right. So if that’s true, that is, if you are not a naturalized citizen, then there’s only one other kind you can be, according to the 14th Amendment. And that other kind is BORN. And if you are born a citizen, you must be natural born.
The statute says if you are born in the U.S. you are a citizen at birth.
If citizen at birth does not mean natural born, then something is very wrong. This is insane.
The 14th Amendment leaves us with no other choice. There are no “native” and “natural born” or “citizen at birth” according to the 14th Amendment. There are just BORN and NATURALIZED.
NO OTHER CHOICES.
If “natural born” is SUPPOSED to REALLY mean something else, then someone had better say it, because right now it does not mean that at all.