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To: SatinDoll
Ahh. But then, in 1898, you have the Wong v. Ark decision:

It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established. Of course, by "the same rule" he means the criterion was where the child is born -- that is what was the same, but in the U.S. it applied to being a citizen, not a subject. How sad it is for us that we aren't even sure what the qualifications for president are in this country! To me, this is scandalous. I agree that SCOTUS should rule on it. But without a case, it won't. I can only surmise that it was considered too volatile last year, and so out of fear, McCain and the Republicans decided not to do it.

7,068 posted on 08/05/2009 7:49:57 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Technical Editor

Of that list you posted the other night listing those that were Nationals and Citizens, which category/item do you think Obama falls into??

Thanks,

John


7,070 posted on 08/05/2009 7:56:43 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Technical Editor

BULL CRAP!


7,096 posted on 08/05/2009 8:47:10 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Technical Editor
Wong Kim v. Ark addressed citizenship. There was never a question of redefining natural born citizenship, which has never varied from the citations in The Venus, Minor. V. Happersett, or, as Leo Donofrio has observed, when John Jay caused Alexander Hamilton to change the June 18 draft of the constitution regarding Article II, from “Citizen of the U.S.” into “Natural Born Citizen.” Jay explained in archived letters exactly what and why he wanted the commander in chief to be more than a citizen, and what legal dictionary, Law of Nations, he was using as a source.

Think of the risks of not specifying a natural born citizen, keeping in mind that a purpose of the constitution is to preserve our liberties. A young Muslim couple comes here to attend school. They are not citizens, and have a child. They are in fact talented and committed jihadists, such as the Doctors in Scotland who tried to blow up airplanes. But they are disciplined and quiet, and their child is not prevented from becoming commander in chief.

7,144 posted on 08/05/2009 10:16:08 PM PDT by Spaulding
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