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To: DMZFrank
Many people disagree with G. Washington and even John Jay. While their opinion is important, it was not the only one at the time. You are wrong about US v. Wong. It did indeed argue that children of aliens born on the soil were Natural Born Citizens. See page 655 of that case.

Chester A. Arthur was President of the United States. His Father was not a US Citizen when he was born and by the laws of the time neither was his Mother. Nevertheless, he was elected President and no one argued that he was not eligible.

This argument is some off shoot of the immigration argument. I'm not dogmatic about it, I'm just pretty sure where the law stands at this point. Maybe it should be changed, but right now regardless of what you think the "founders" thought (they didn't agree totally on much of anything), the law doesn't agree with you.

Now I'll let this go because there is no end to this argument.

5,812 posted on 08/03/2009 4:44:17 PM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: politicalmerc

Can you find a contemporary opinion from a member of the Constitutional Convention which says they wanted anchor babies to be President?

Arthur burned all his papers so no one would know the circumstances of his birth or his father’s citizenship; the latter which he also lied about. It wasn’t until this year that it was verified Arthur’s father wasn’t naturalized until Chet was aged 14.


5,821 posted on 08/03/2009 4:49:06 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: politicalmerc

You seem to ignore the fact that the 1787 constitutional convention ADOPTED the measure advocated by Washington thru Jay. It’s right there in the constitution.


5,843 posted on 08/03/2009 5:05:57 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: politicalmerc
DMZFrank is correct. Wong Kim did not decide natural born citizenship, and couldn't have. The case has been reviewed by a number of attorneys, so I won't quote them. There is some curiousity about Wong Kim because the justice, the one who wrote the prevailing decision, Grey, was an Arthur appointee. I if recall, he added some words which some think was intentional mis-direction, which might have helped Arthur if his ineligiblity had been legally questioned. There were questions (I too will read the book), but never proof, about where Chester was born.

No one knew about Arthur's father's naturalization date. Like Obama, he kept it a secret. I understand he lied about it, and burned all his personal documents just before his death to keep the secret. Leo Donofrio, the attorney who uncovered - possibly discovered -the Arthur ineligility, is writing a book about it. http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/ No case went to court; there was not discovery, as, thus far, has been the case with Obama’s alleged ineligibility.

5,844 posted on 08/03/2009 5:06:02 PM PDT by Spaulding
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