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To: mkjessup

Politifact (St Petersburg Times of Florida) looked into this. Their write-up on it:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/28/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/

In researching the story, he went to the microfilm archives and found the birth announcement for Obama. Actually, he found two of them, one in his Honululu Advertiser on Aug. 13 , 1961, and in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin the next day . They both said the same thing: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, son, Aug. 4.”

But here’s the thing. Newspaper officials he checked with confirmed those notices came from the state Department of Health.

“That’s not the kind of stuff a family member calls in and says, ‘Hey, can you put this in?’” Hoover explained.

Take a second and think about that. In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers — on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.


3,021 posted on 08/02/2009 2:27:26 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG

The HI Department of Health forwarded announcement info to the newspapers as a matter of routine. Nobody had to be “in on it” except for BHO’s mother who fraudulently filed for an “at home birth” certificate.


3,059 posted on 08/02/2009 2:34:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: WOSG

I think somewhere there is a thread that says Obama’s sister born in Africa also has a COLB from Hawaii....


3,068 posted on 08/02/2009 2:36:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: WOSG

You are on the wrong track. The story is not in how the newspaper got the information, it’s how the HEATH DEPARTMENT go it. It didn’t have to come from a hospital, you realize.


3,069 posted on 08/02/2009 2:36:46 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: WOSG

Cut the crap.

It’s been documented time and again that a birth can be registered in Hawaii even if the kid isn’t born there.

So grandma Dunham registers the birth after getting word — phone call? telegram? — from Kenya, and the state Health Dept. or Vital Stats or whoever compiles a list of certificates issued and gives the info to the newspaper.

The address for the supposed Obama family was fake.

That newspaper announcement proves absolutely nothing other than the baby was born prior to it being published.


3,093 posted on 08/02/2009 2:42:16 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: WOSG

You realize there were 4 different ways to obtain a BC? If not I suggest you mosey on over to WND and educate yourself.


3,112 posted on 08/02/2009 2:44:52 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: WOSG
...on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.

That isn't the only conceivable reason for an 18 year old American girl and her family to want their child's record to show he was born in the United States instead of Africa. Especially if she never intended to have him in Africa in the first place.

3,152 posted on 08/02/2009 2:53:34 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WOSG
In researching the story, he went to the microfilm archives and found the birth announcement for Obama. Actually, he found two of them, one in his Honululu Advertiser on Aug. 13 , 1961, and in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin the next day . They both said the same thing: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, son, Aug. 4.”

But here’s the thing. Newspaper officials he checked with confirmed those notices came from the state Department of Health.

“That’s not the kind of stuff a family member calls in and says, ‘Hey, can you put this in?’” Hoover explained. Take a second and think about that. In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers — on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.

This is an easy one. Birth, death and marriage records were routinely picked up by the county/state records at that time. I was born in VA in 1961 and my birth record was in the newspaper with the info on my BC. My parents had nothing to do with it.

All that had to happen in Zero's case was a late filing for an HI BC. I am not saying that it happened this way...but"

Ann:Hi Mom. Oops I had the baby and could not get home. Can you look into getting your grandson registered in the states?

Toot: I am so angry at you but yes I will. I don't want the baby to be a freeking Kenyan on top of everything else he will have to deal with.

Days later it is all taken care of with a sworn statement of home birth or registration of foreign birth by grandma. (we will not know which until we see the BC). The DOH registers him and the newspaper picks it up. The newspaper never said he was born in HI.

3,419 posted on 08/02/2009 3:49:59 PM PDT by lovesdogs (I will not lay down and die. This is my country and with God's help I will take it back.)
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To: WOSG
But here’s the thing. Newspaper officials he checked with confirmed those notices came from the state Department of Health. “That’s not the kind of stuff a family member calls in and says, ‘Hey, can you put this in?’” Hoover explained.

Hoover's name fits. He doesn't know what he's talking about or he's lying. You know many people here have posted they know first hand of announcements placed by family members. Besides, I thought you said you were backing off this for a month.

3,424 posted on 08/02/2009 3:51:42 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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