[nathanbedford]

If it is clearly found that Obama is ineligible and the Dems refuse to remove him instead of trying to control the damage, there will be a revolt. The military clearly will not follow his orders. If the powers to be refuse to remove him the people will. Somebody will got up to him like they did to Nixon and give him a choice. Pardon will be his only hope and he will step down in return for that, which I find extremely distasteful. His secretiveness is evidence of knowledge of wrongdoing.

The impeachment of Bill Clinton teaches us that the barometer whether or not a president will be removed has not to do with the justice of the cause but with the president's approval ratings and that in turn has a lot to do with the state of the economy.

I am not as clairvoyant as you are, I do not know what the military will do much less the people who might or might not take to the streets, I only know that we have recent history of the impeachment of Bill Clinton to instruct us and the lessons seem to run the other way.

You state the question: "If it is clearly found that Obama is ineligible". But there is the rub, who is going to find ineligibility? Such a finding cannot come out of the air, it cannot be rendered here on Free Republic, the military -that would be the most dangerous of all, if it is to be done it must be done by a court, the Congress, or simply the moral weight of public opinion. In other words, you had Judge Sirica pushing Watergate. You have Sam Irwin's committee pushing Watergate. You had the Washington Post and the rest of the press pushing Watergate. There is simply no institution available to us except Free Republic and a few stalwart patriots who will press the issue and we have not the power to force the evidence open. The problem is who? In my previous post I stated what I thought it would not be the Congress and not be the courts. That leaves you and me.

[MrDem]

You are right with the RATS in power. But if this causes a GOP blowout in 2010 and they regain both houses then impeach is a very real possibility.

[rolling_stone]

You and me and the foxhole converts who are beginning to see the writing on the wall..

as for impeaching Clinton, I was FReeper from Monica times, got so ticked they didn’t convict that I quit posting at FR awhile and had to reregister as I had forgotten my original name/pw. That was about sex and lying to cover it, this is a lot more serious IMO. They already know the people are ticked, are they going to throw gas on the fire? Methinks not, but I will stand at the ready.

[reasonisfaith]

“who is going to find ineligibility?”

Your question got me wondering, there an institution more valid than We the People?

If enough of the general public come to believe Obama is ineligible, no document or committee will nullify their opinion. (And if there are similar numbers of Americans who disagree, what will happen then?)

[David]

In my view, the current status is that Obama is not President--he is not constitutionally eligible to hold the office. The immediate remedy is that his acts are not valid as the acts of the Commander in Chief or of the President.

The House reviewed the election results and determined that an eligible person had received a majority of the electoral votes as Vice President and that person was elected. The legal consequence of his election is that he is to serve as President until an eligible person is elected to that office.

As I have said on a number of occasions here, I remain of the view that the most likely party to force the issue is the military. I actually wonder what the Joint Chiefs and their attorneys at the Judge Advocate General's Office are thinking about--they don't have the cover of treaties and law for their actions; they all have personal liability (at least arguably).

Whether they act directly or indirectly by attempting to open negotiations with Congress over a proper remedy, you should expect that the military would ultimately take action.

The real legal remedy is that the House of Representatives suspends its rules and tables a motion to reconsider the vote affirming the election of Obama. Maybe there need to be hearings or investigation; maybe there would be other evidence. The House might even look at the evidence and decide that he was born in Hawaii and eligible.

Assuming the House reaches the conclusion we have--he was born in Kenya and not eligible, they have the remedy of telling the military to move him out of the White House if he doesn't move voluntarily. Biden continues to act as President pending certification of an eligible President.

At that point, under the 20th Amendment, the House is to choose among others receiving electoral votes. McCain is the only person who got such votes.

Now I know the McCain debate has been in process for some time--the actual legal is posted in several places here; complete with consideration of the various legislative acts and their impact on his status--anyone who wants to argue about it should at least look at the legal authorities that are applicable and be prepared to address them if they want to argue McCain's position.

The bottom line is that McCain is clearly not eligible either.

The only reports of actual tabulation of Electoral College vote I have seen show only McCain and Obama getting votes. At one point, I heard that a Texas electoral voter had cast his ballot for Ron Paul--that doesn't appear from any of the reported records and I assume it is not true.

I have done no research and have not considered the question of the options of the House of Representatives if no eligible candidate received votes.