Didn't Northern States or State threaten Secession? Before the Southern States did it?
Your only mad at people who had the BALLS to DO IT?
Slavery or not- People have the Right to live under a Government of their choice
If all the Liberals moved to California would you fight to keep them in? Even if they didn't ask permission? That would be better than a lottery win
I don't know if threaten is the right word. Certainly there were people advocating it from time to time. But the Hartford Convention is held up as the primary example of New England secessionist movements and what talk there had been of secession had been voted down very early on during the convention, and the declaration that came out of it didn't threaten secession at all. It's interesting to note what the rest of the country thought of that secessionist talk. One newspaper editorial caught the mood:
"The Union is in danger. Turn to the convention in Hartford, and learn to tremble at the madness of its authors. How far will those madmen advance? Though they may conceal from you the project of disunion, though a few of them may have even concealed if from themselves, yet who will pretend to set the bounds to the rage of disaffection? Once false step after another may lead them to resistance to the laws, to a treasonable neutrality, to a war against the Government of the United States. In truth, the first act of resistance to the law is treason to the United States. Are you ready for this state of things? Will you support the men who would plunge you into this ruin?
br> No man, no association of men, no state or set of states has a right to withdraw itself from this Union, of its own accord. The same power which knit us together, can only unknit. The same formality, which forged the links of the Union, is necessary to dissolve it. The majority of States which form the Union must consent to the withdrawal of any one branch of it. Until that consent has been obtained, any attempt to dissolve the Union, or obstruct the efficacy of its constitutional laws, is Treason--Treason to all intents and purposes.
Any other doctrine, such as that which has been lately held forth by the ‘Federal Republican’ that any one State may withdraw itself from the Union, is abominable heresy – which strips its author of every possible pretension to the name or character of Federalist. We call, therefore, upon the government of the Union to exert its energies, when the season shall demand it – and seize the first traitor who shall spring out of the hotbed of the convention of Harford. This illustrious Union, which has been cemented by the blood of our forefathers, the pride of America and the wonder of the world must not be tamely sacrificed to the heated brains or the aspiring hearts of a few malcontents. The Union must be saved, when any one shall dare to assail it.
Countrymen of the East! We call upon you to keep a vigilant eye upon those wretched men who would plunge us into civil war and irretrievable disgrace. Whatever be the temporary calamities which may assail us, let us swear, upon the altar of our country, to SAVE THE UNION."
That was from a Virginia paper, the Richmond Enquirer. November 1814
Slavery or not- People have the Right to live under a Government of their choice.
Slavery or not, you have the God given right to try rebellion. Nothing guarantees you success.
If all the Liberals moved to California would you fight to keep them in?
Nope, it that's what they want then God bless 'em. I'd negotiate a fair and equitable settlement on all areas of disagreement and vote to bid them a fond adeu. Just as I would you and whatever state you decide to take with you.