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To: Idabilly
-To dishonor one will dishonor them all

Fine, but what about my two great great great grandfathers who were loyal to the United States, enlisted and fought under its flag in the Civil War, one of them losing a leg? To hear the Lost Causers side of things, they were little better than Nazis, war criminals, the pointy end of Lincoln's evil plan to end federalism and "the filth that flowed from the north" as Watie often says. Am I supposed to allow them to be dishonored?

193 posted on 05/07/2009 10:28:32 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep (fyi, i CAN get you banned.--Stand Watie)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
they were little better than Nazis, war criminals, the pointy end of Lincoln's evil plan to end federalism

I won't call them war criminals, however, the Union Generalship, that is a different question...

195 posted on 05/07/2009 10:35:13 AM PDT by central_va (www.15thVirginia.org Co. C, Patrick Henry Rifles)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
“Lost Causers side of things”
we are confusing language very much.
This is the issue- My Family and “Watie’s” fought against what they determined was a oppressive Government-Lost Causers?I think we all lost

“Fine, but what about my two great great great grandfathers who were loyal to the United States, enlisted and fought under its flag in the Civil War, one of them losing a leg?”

Sad, That Countrymen would do such things to each other both under the Term “Freedom”! Funny we blame Him and you blame Us? Many that fought for the Union did so with great respect and honor,as did mine.

“end federalism”

Truthfully Lincoln didn't agree with you either
Lincoln ,

Our States have neither more nor less power than that reserved to them in the Union by the Constitution, no one of them ever having been a State out of the Union . The original ones passed into the Union even before they cast off their British colonial dependence, and the new ones each came into the Union directly from a condition of dependence, excepting Texas; and even Texas, in its temporary independence, was never designated a State. The new ones only took the designation of States on coming into the Union, while that name was first adopted for the old ones in and by the Declaration of Independence . . . . Having never been States, either in substance or in name, outside of the Union, whence this magical omnipotence of “State rights,” asserting a claim of power to lawfully destroy the Union itself? Much is said about the “sovereignty” of the States, but the word even is not in the National Constitution, nor, as is believed, in any of the State constitutions. What is a “sovereignty” in the political sense of the term? Would it be far wrong to define it “a political community without a political superior”? Tested by this, no one of our States, except Texas , ever was a sovereignty. . . . (Special Session Message to Congress, July 4, 1861)

“Am I supposed to allow them to be dishonored?”

No, Hopefully we are all on the Right side of History next time! America is just a vote away from becoming a complete Socialist State and with any luck- Foes will be friends and Obama will get deported!

Of the Topic- Isn't it funny how 1960’s pipe smoking,flag burners are now running this Country?

225 posted on 05/07/2009 4:48:56 PM PDT by Idabilly
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