Lincoln’s War

Tenth Amendment Center ^ | May 04, 2009 | Judge Andrew P. Napolitano

[cowboyway]

One of the greatest misconceptions of American history is that the Civil War was fought over slavery. Those who subscribe to this belief see President Abraham Lincoln as the benevolent leader who made unimaginable sacrifices in human blood to wipe out America’s greatest sin. While the human sacrifice is indisputable and the sin was monumental, the war’s purpose was not to free blacks from the shackles of bondage. Rather, the Civil War was fought with one purpose in mind: To preserve the Union at all costs. And, to put it in Lincoln’s terms, with no ifs, ands, or buts. You’d better agree with the president, or else.

[Rustabout]

**So suppressing rebellion certainly isn't an abuse of the powers granted Congress.** Forcing us to deal with your leftist,VILE,throwing stones from a glass house,watching your Lincoln worship,rewriting history to cover your COWARDLY torching,IS an ABUSE of Power! Have y'all raised that Rainbow flag yet? Trash of the lowest order don't even deserve being called Yankee... Enjoy your new flag!

[Non-Sequitur]

Enjoy your new flag!

And of course I assume you'll be taking your traditional flag with you?

[Non-Sequitur]

Oh, Im sorry. That wasn't your traditional flag. This one is.

[Rustabout]

Oh, I'm sorry. Y'all have confused the Flag of Honor with your Yankee rag bellow!

[Rustabout]

**And of course I assume you'll be taking your traditional flag with you?** And of course I KNOW you'll be taking Lincoln's Flag with you!

[rockrr]

What with her fascination with all things fascistic, homo-erotic, and Nazism, I thing rusty’s on the verge of a coming out of sorts...(although I wish she’d stay in)...;’}

[Rustabout]

***The reason why I waste my time debating neo-Yankees is to try and gain some perspective on the mindset of the 19th century Yankee through the lens of their contemporaries. It is always been impossible for me to truly understand the motives of the 19th century Yankee; I really am on a quest to understand.*** Your quest is over! This explains neo-Yankee thinking....

[central_va]

Some Yankees rockrr and N-S would rather voluntarily splay themselves upon the alter of state, even a collective one, and take one in the hind area in the name of the Constitution rather than leave the church. Thus sanctified, they will then hunt down the heretics who left the church drag them back to the church and chain them upon the alter so as to receive their ‘gift’ of state also.

[central_va]

I think the Yankee brain is completely taken over by the “smarter than thou” tumor.

[Non-Sequitur]

Oh, I'm sorry. Y'all have confused the Flag of Honor with your Yankee rag bellow!

Hardly, Rustabout. You go to ancient history and I'm talking about modern times.

[Non-Sequitur]

And of course I KNOW you'll be taking Lincoln's Flag with you!

Damn right. Our's doesn't come with the hoods and robes though.

[Non-Sequitur]

Some Yankees rockrr and N-S would rather voluntarily splay themselves upon the alter of state, even a collective one, and take one in the hind area in the name of the Constitution rather than leave the church. Thus sanctified, they will then hunt down the heretics who left the church drag them back to the church and chain them upon the alter so as to receive their ‘gift’ of state also.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

[cowboyway]

He was more that 10 points more popular than his nearest opponent.

You can try to characterize it anyway you want to but the bottom line is that only 39% for means that 61% were against.

And it's no spin to say for a fact that even had Lincoln had only 1 opponent and if he'd still gotten only 39% of the vote then he'd still have been president.

You're getting more absurd and irrational with every post.

But you can certainly say that getting 90% of the electoral votes was.

More absurdity.

Example: In 2008, Obama got 50.9% of the popular vote in Florida but he got 100% of the electoral college votes.

BTW, who are you saying got 90% of the electoral votes?

[Non-Sequitur]

You can try to characterize it anyway you want to but the bottom line is that only 39% for means that 61% were against.

And you can spin it whatever way you want to. Lincoln would have won if he had a single opponent instead of 3, and if he'd still gotten only 39% of the vote.

You're getting more absurd and irrational with every post.

What is absurd or irrational about the truth? Even with three opponents Lincoln took 50.1% or more of the votes cast in states with 173 electoral votes. Enough to win.

BTW, who are you saying got 90% of the electoral votes?

What other president have we been talking about? Reagan took 90.9% of the electoral vote in 1980 and 97.6% of them in 1988. But according to you the '84 election was a real squeaker.

[cowboyway]

I don’t know whether to chalk any of this up to my childhood experiences

Such as being repeatedly dropped on you head?

[cowboyway]

What is absurd or irrational about the truth? Even with three opponents Lincoln took 50.1% or more of the votes cast in states with 173 electoral votes. Enough to win.

Well, let me remind you what the point the Judge was making that you have unsuccessfully tried to contend with you weak electoral college argument: Lincoln was NOT a popular president throughout the US in 1860.

What other president have we been talking about?

So far, Lincoln, Reagan and Obama. I think that I mentioned Clinton, too.

But according to you the '84 election was a real squeaker.

I said that the the 1980 election was close and that the 1984 election represented an actual popular vote mandate.

Once again you are caught telling a lie.

But, not much more can be expected from a congenital liar................

[central_va]

Red is definitly your color! What other interesting hobbies do you pursue in your basement?

[Rustabout]

***Hardly, Rustabout. You go to ancient history and I'm talking about modern times.*** Hardly, Neo Fascist. You cover up ancient history

***and I'm talking about modern times*** So I'm I ,BTW Which one of the Kluxers in you?

[rockrr]

Nope. Never had that particular experience. Why don’t you tell us what it was like? Did you like it so much you took to running your head into things?

[cowboyway]

Nope. Never had that particular experience. Why don’t you tell us what it was like? Did you like it so much you took to running your head into things?

Wow! What a snappy comeback. I can't do anything with that one.................