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To: Terpfen

Yeah, I hear you, but nobody is forcing you save, you are just choosing where and when to spend and therefore you are choosing when to pay your taxes. The MAN gets his cut of your production on the back end, not on the front. The two things that would take the teeth out our government and give us back our country would be 1. Term limits 2. Fair Tax. Let there be no doubt about it, income tax is weapon use by our govt. Currently, if you make a mistake its your fault and you pay the price for failure to remit your taxes. When was the last time you walked out of a business and noticed they didn’t charge you tax and then thought, wow, I should go back in and pay that tax? Never, because the onus is not on you. Yet on the other hand, have you ever seen something the govt. was doing and thought, “That sucks, I would say something about it, but then I would probably get audited or something.” I know I think that all the time. You would probably be shocked at how often outspoken conservative talking heads are audited.


67 posted on 04/20/2009 5:10:16 PM PDT by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: John.Galt2012
The two things that would take the teeth out our government and give us back our country would be 1. Term limits 2. Fair Tax.

If we get that, everything will be sunshine and rainbows from then on?

70 posted on 04/20/2009 5:18:48 PM PDT by Wissa (I despise the liberal media.)
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To: John.Galt2012
but nobody is forcing you save

Impossible and absurd on its face. Every use of force alters your behavior.

As we bicker amongst ourselves over how best to waste our fortunes - silly.

Until conservatives agree on the foundational concept of individual liberty how can we even hope to fix our nation?

The problem is caused by expectations that someone else can run our lives better than we can, that government is neutral and helpful, and by expanding the voting franchise from producers to consumers.

It is simply blather, especially given the fact the when we even get near any power we cannot wait to exercise it over someone else for the cause de jure.

72 posted on 04/20/2009 5:23:11 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: John.Galt2012
The two things that would take the teeth out our government and give us back our country would be 1. Term limits 2. Fair Tax. Let there be no doubt about it, income tax is weapon use by our govt.

Agreed. I tend toward the Flat Tax more than the Fair Tax simply because repealing the 16th Amendment is going to be virtually impossible barring a sudden influx of conservatives to state governments in the northeast.
79 posted on 04/20/2009 5:37:54 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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