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To: IrishCatholic
Please read this: Jefferson Davis and the Big S

The problem with the USA is that states rights are dead. The civil war killed the 10th amendment. This can't be discussed however without first wading through 18 miles of "it was about slavery you bigoted hick" before you actually get to the main event. Very frustrating....

59 posted on 03/21/2009 7:57:24 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: central_va

Thanks for the link. It looks interesting. I’ll bookmark it and read more later.

As for states rights being dead, I separate the issue as it seems most of the active encroachments are since Wilson.
However, with the rush to socialism by our current socialist in chief, it seems a good time to revisit the issue.


73 posted on 03/21/2009 8:31:29 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: central_va
He held private beliefs that slavery would end in a reasonable time, as it was ending in most parts of the world.

I would love to see a single quote by Davis from before or during the rebellion that supports that claim.

The Brierfield overseer was a black man, James Pemberton.

Be accurate. Pemberton was a slave, Davis' property. And remained such until the war freed him.

All slave families at Brierfield were kept together. A nursery and early grade school was developed for slaves (contrary to existing law). Slave families were assigned land to farm on their own time to accrue their own money.

A claim unsupported by any evidence I'm aware of.

Little known and conspiculously missing from most published work on the subject is the fact that Mr. Davis paid for higher education for some of the slave children at Brierfield. He arranged for James Pemberton's son to attend an Ivy League University.

Probably because it didn't happen.

Then, there is the story of Jim Limber.

And yet in all their post-rebellion writings, neither Davis mentions Jim Limber in any of their books. I guess he didn't mean that much to them after all.

98 posted on 03/21/2009 10:42:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
The problem with the USA is that states rights are dead. The civil war killed the 10th amendment. This can't be discussed however without first wading through 18 miles of "it was about slavery you bigoted hick" before you actually get to the main event. Very frustrating....

Some people are incapable of learning without being beaten over the head with it. The fools who think states rights = pro-slavery, especially the conservative ones, are going to get a hell of a lesson they'll never forget from Zero. Assuming they avoid the re-education camps, of course.

When the final score is taken, we'll see whose laughing and who isn't.
608 posted on 03/23/2009 12:49:55 PM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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