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Forget Rush; Mitt Romney is quietly showing leadership (BARF ALERT)
Sacromento Bee ^ | 3/4/09 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 03/05/2009 5:23:07 AM PST by CASchack

It's been a win-win the past few days for Democratic and Republican loyalists, but what about the rest of us?

You know. Americans who either don't think that (a) spending nonexistent trillions is quite the way to proceed in an economic crisis, or that (b) Rush Limbaugh is the messiah.

Oh wait, that's right, Barack Obama is the messiah. I get confused sometimes, what with so much deification going on. Limbaugh's 85-minute speech at last weekend's Conservative Political Action Conference, frequently interrupted by grateful applause from a slightly star-struck audience, was, dare we say it, Obama- esque.

But where there's deification, there's bound to be demonization. Thus, Rush told conferees that Obama, in essence, is Stalin. And Obama, via chief commando Rahm Emanuel, anointed Limbaugh as leader of the GOP, calling him the "voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party."

Talk about damning with praise.

El Rushbo can't have minded much, despite his protestations that he was being manipulated and maligned by the White House to distract Americans from the "plunging economy." What could be better for a talking head than to be chosen by a president as his worthy adversary?

At least finally both sides certainly should agree on one thing: The Fairness Doctrine is a terrible idea! Who wants fair and politically balanced commentary on the airwaves when being "unfair" is keeping both armies in their Humvees?

The body politic, meanwhile, resembles a tempest-tossed ocean liner on which passengers scurry across the deck as the ship pitches. On one side is the president, promising to build a new $3.6 trillion ark. On the other is El Rushbo, clutching the conservative tablature: Thou shalt not raise taxes.

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To: Elsie

Um..

No thanks...


181 posted on 03/06/2009 3:06:33 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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Comment #182 Removed by Moderator

To: restornu
restornu (RomneyBOT): "how covert anti LDS are you too!"

Neither covert, nor anti LDS, proving how untruthful
you RomneyBOTs continue to be. Have a good day.

183 posted on 03/07/2009 4:07:23 AM PST by Diogenesis ("All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities." - Dune)
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To: sevenbak; lady lawyer
Just an update, because I am getting old.

Sev, you listed Kmiec...

He has gone Obama now.

May want to further amend, that don't look too good...

184 posted on 03/07/2009 6:42:11 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: Diogenesis
What magazine/newpaper were you interviewing Mitt for?

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I don't work in print media, I work in electronic media.

185 posted on 03/09/2009 11:41:20 PM PDT by sevenbak (He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4)
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To: colorcountry
I'm guessing that since sevenbak works at the Deseret News (which is a Mormon rag) that he interviewed Mitt for the Deseret News. Correct me if I'm wrong, seven
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I think you asked me that once before too. No, I don't work for the DNews, nor the Church News, nor for any newspaper.

I'll make you a deal... If you don't try to figure our where I work, I won't ask you where on 7200 S. and State you work, as you shared. And I'm pretty sure it's not at either the Christian Book store or Hooters. ;-)

186 posted on 03/09/2009 11:44:24 PM PDT by sevenbak (He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4)
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To: FastCoyote
Either Mitt is on track to become a Man/God, or he is not and Mormon doctrine is false. Which is it?
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Nice try.

I'll give you the same answer that the great Christian writer has shared, I'm sure you've heard of him.

“The command Be ye perfect is not idealistic gas. Nor is it a command to do the impossible. He is going to make us into creatures that can obey that command. He said (in the Bible) that we were “gods” and He is going to make good His words. If we let Him-for we can prevent Him, if we choose-He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess, dazzling, radiant, immortal creature, pulsating all through with such energy and joy and wisdom and love as we cannot now imagine, a bright stainless mirror which reflects back to God perfectly (though, of course, on a smaller scale) His own boundless power and delight and goodness. The process will be long and in parts very painful; but that is what we are in for. Nothing less. He meant what He said.”

C.S. Lewis

187 posted on 03/09/2009 11:49:11 PM PDT by sevenbak (He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4)
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To: Finny
What is your deal about repeatedly pinging the MOD?

You make it sound like Rush didn't mean what he said. He did, clearly.

Let me make this very clear, with yet another statement by Rush, right after his speech on Faith. It's quite remarkable, even for Rush, I hope you read it!!

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This speech, the kind of stuff he said today is the kind of stuff I’ve been dreaming of hearing in a presidential campaign in a long time in terms of what this country is and where we’re headed.

Do you realize how long it has been since a political person, a presidential candidate of either party, spoke extensively of the founding of this country and how crucial everybody’s understanding of that is to maintaining American exceptionalism?

Mitt Romney took the long view of this country, from its founding to its future, farther than we can see, and he described what it is that binds us together and defines us as Americans. It is crucially important that people understand this. This was a speech of the long view, a speech of leadership and of vision. It didn’t attack anybody. It was optimistic. It was positive. It had reinforcement of American traditions and values. So the criticism I’m hearing of this really does a disservice, I think, to the critics and the whole process here. Politics is dirty, I understand that, but this speech today that he gave was — when I do speeches, when I do the Rush to Excellence Tour, I go out and I’ll do two hours, sometimes an hour-and-45 minutes, depends on whether or not I run out of water. But that’s a theme of every one of them: American exceptionalism; American greatness. How did we get here? Why are we here? Why are we who we are? What defines us?
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All Romney was doing today was answering all these charges and criticisms that his religion makes him unfit to lead, and he was trying to, and I thought did a bang-up job, of defining this country. He gave a brilliant analysis of what he thinks the country is and where we’re headed as a country, filled with optimism that’s been sorely lacking in the campaign. This was not a speech that was designed to say to various members, “Okay, you want health care, I’m going to give it to you and here’s my plan, and my religion is not going to get in the way. You’re worried about the environment, don’t worry. I’m going to make sure we cut our CO2 emissions and, by the way, my Mormonism is not going to get in the way. You’re worried about these forest fires and the lead in the toys from the ChiComs, I’m going to make sure there’s no lead in the toys from the ChiComs and I’m going to make sure my Mormonism is not going to get in the way.” It’s not what it was about today. It’s not what he was doing. It was grander than that.

All these other things, when you get right down to it, are distractions in a genuinely good presidential campaign. I think it was a welcome speech, and some of the criticism now that’s being levied at this just doesn’t fit the moment, which is why I think some campaigns are behind this, which is understandable. It is a presidential race, and it’s dog-eat-dog out there, and it is to be expected. But, when it happens, I, El Rushbo, will comment on it and analyze it as I see it.
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Let me say one more thing here about Mitt Romney. What Mitt Romney did today was raise the bar. Mitt Romney raised the bar today. In the process of laying out his own personal views on his religion, I think he raised the entire level of political discourse to things that matter, to things that are important in determining the kind of country we shall be in the future, and this is exactly what I have been hoping would happen in a presidential campaign. What Mitt Romney said today, I don’t care what you think of it. It doesn’t matter. If you disagree, if you were threatened by it, it doesn’t matter to me, but what he said today is important, because he was right about what he said the way this country was founded and how crucial that is to this country staying who and what it is. What Barack Obama thought in kindergarten is not important! That Mrs. Clinton flew on trips to China with President Clinton and, therefore, is qualified to foreign policy, is not important. That Mrs. Clinton has “fought for children” for 35 years is not important, nor is it qualifying. What Romney said today is important, and I think that’s what everybody is so scared about. I think that’s why a lot of people are so scared by it, including people on the conservative side of the aisle. I stress again here: I am not endorsing anybody. That hasn’t changed. I analyze this stuff day-to-day as it goes. Look, it may not be morning in America again, but we are sure a long way from midnight, now, if this keeps up.

188 posted on 03/09/2009 11:51:58 PM PDT by sevenbak (He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4)
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To: Elsie

WHERE does Rush say, “I choose Mitt over the others?”

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Based on his statements about Mitt, and the other candidates, who do you think he voted for in the Primaries? McCain, Huck? Do you really want me to go find his statements about these 2?

LOL


189 posted on 03/09/2009 11:56:15 PM PDT by sevenbak (He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4)
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To: Elsie
Inform us about the WRONGness of Presbyterianism; too, Seven.
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Still stuck on that?

It was a statement to his Mother, who was a Presbyterianism along with several siblings, all who joined the Church. They certainly didn't have a problem with it.

I suspect that if you spent as much time asking your PCUSA why they are allowing homosexual clergy, as you do bashing the LDS faith, you might find part of the answers you keep asking.

190 posted on 03/10/2009 12:01:22 AM PDT by sevenbak (He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4)
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To: lady lawyer

Well, there is that. ;-)


191 posted on 03/10/2009 12:01:53 AM PDT by sevenbak (He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and truth is not in him.1 Jn 2:4)
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To: sevenbak

FC:Either Mitt is on track to become a Man/God, or he is not and Mormon doctrine is false. Which is it?
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Seven:Nice try.

I’ll give you the same answer that the great Christian writer has shared, I’m sure you’ve heard of him.

“The command Be ye perfect is not idealistic gas. Nor is it a command to do the impossible. He is going to make us into creatures that can obey that command. He said (in the Bible) that we were “gods” and He is going to make good His words. If we let Him-for we can prevent Him, if we choose-He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess, dazzling, radiant, immortal creature, pulsating all through with such energy and joy and wisdom and love as we cannot now imagine, a bright stainless mirror which reflects back to God perfectly (though, of course, on a smaller scale) His own boundless power and delight and goodness. The process will be long and in parts very painful; but that is what we are in for. Nothing less. He meant what He said.”

C.S. Lewis

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Quoting C.S. Lewis is a bit desparate and still not an answer. First, Lewis doesn’t capitalize gos and goddesses, Which is what Mormons are actually proposing - real Godhood.

So again, a simple response please, is Mitt on track to become God, or not?


192 posted on 03/10/2009 7:54:16 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: curiosity
"Paltry" $295 tax per employee is "hardly a mandate"??

Folks, here AGAIN on display is the arrogance, condescension, and presumption of RomneyThink. This is a typical Romney supporter, who presumes what is and isn't "paltry" with regard to taxes on small businesses.

The behavior of Romney supporters speaks volumes about their candidate. Romney is a big government Daddy-state moderate who is BAD for the GOP.

193 posted on 03/10/2009 8:20:55 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: lady lawyer
But, don’t you get it? The Mitt-haters on FR, who never get out of their basements, are smarter and better informed than all of the people on your post.

What all smart people "get," lady lawyer, is that Romney supporters, who are usually arrogant, rude, and condescending, LIE to fellow Republicans about Romney. They LIE and MISREPRESENT what pundits have said about Romney in order to mislead fellow Republicans.

Anyone who reads Romney threads on Free Republic sees it proven repeatedly.

194 posted on 03/10/2009 8:26:45 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny
Romney vetoed the $295 tax. It was overridden.

Why are you blaming him for it?

195 posted on 03/10/2009 8:45:41 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: sevenbak; Admin Moderator; Elsie
You LIAR. You are distusting and I am ashamed to be anywhere near calling you an ally in politics. I ping the admin moderators because I believe they want to know when someone posts repeatedly, AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, absolute FALSEHOODS about Rush Limbaugh.

You know very well that Limbaugh has never "endorsed" Romney. Period. HE NEVER HAS, yet you repeat the LIE that he has. In support, all you can do is to post words Limbaugh has said about Romney that sound like praise to you and your conclusion that it was an "endorsment."

Pal, I heard the show on which Limbaugh waxed eloquent with praise regarding Romneys speech on religion. You should take your own advice and READ what you post of Limbaugh's words:

All Romney was doing today was answering all these charges and criticisms that his religion makes him unfit to lead, and he was trying to, and I thought did a bang-up job, of defining this country....

AND MOST IMPORTANT,, you despicable, slime-bellied liar who falsely claims repeatedly a Limbaugh endorsement of Romney ala Elsie's post 162 on how Lenin and Goebbels understood the importance of repeating a lie consistently for effective propaganda:

RUSH LIMBAUGH: I stress again here: I am not endorsing anybody.

Limbaugh had high praise for Romney regarding a speech on religion in America. I have heard the shows whose transcripts you post here. I have NEVER heard Limbaugh praise Romney's political record or political philosophy. I HAVE heard Limbaugh play clips of Romney's words from the debates and follow them with the warning to listeners,"Folks, this is not conservatism."

YOU LIE WHEN YOU IMPLY THAT RUSH ENDORSED ROMNEY.

You lie -- openly, blatantly, and contemptibly LIE to fellow Republicans when you say he did.

That you have to resort to lying to fellow Republicans about Romney reveals much about why Romney is a bad candidate, bad for the GOP and bad for everybody.

196 posted on 03/10/2009 8:55:34 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: curiosity

I’m blaming you for proclaiming that such a tax is moderate — “paltry.”


197 posted on 03/10/2009 9:06:17 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny

Gee, you are getting hysterical re Mitt Romney. You have post after post after post getting hot and bothered over him. Did a girl dump you for him or something?


198 posted on 03/10/2009 9:16:39 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Finny

Are any of the quotes on sevenbak’s post “lies”? If so, which ones. You are proving my point.


199 posted on 03/10/2009 9:17:00 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: CASchack

The left is freaking out since picking a fight with Rush. Rush dropped the bomb last week by challenging Obama to a debate. Since then they’ve been trolling for the McCains, Romneys and Specters of the party - anyone running around without a set of unifying governing principals.

If the economy weren’t cratering so badly, Romneycare would be near the front page of the paper. Romneycare is an abject failure of a program. It’s head should be on a pike to warn people never to go down the path of socialized medicine.


200 posted on 03/10/2009 9:21:16 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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