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posted on 30/1/2009 @ 17:21
Physical Evidence of UFOs: A Look At Molten Metal
Ah the Unidentified Flying Object Phenomena. Space aliens? Interdimensional beings? The devil, posing as a peaceful race from Sirius? Airforce pilots, under hypnosis, flying top-secret black projects? I am not here to debate "what" they are, but I am here to attempt and prove that "they" indeed exist. Now, the word "prove" in itself is a strong word. Uncontested documentation, repeated testing with the same results, and undoubted knowledge, defines proof. So maybe "proof" is too strong a word. I am here to simply present my case, for physical evidence. I am going to focus on one specific aspect of UFO's. Molten Metals. After a quick ATS search, all I found was miles of red tape, and 9/11 threads debating molten metal at the 9/11 ground zero site.
On several accounts molten metals have been witnessed as being discharged from various forms of craft. In addition, civillians have captured this substance and have submitted it to various agencies, including the Air Force, and university labs. ARCASM Surprisingly, the materials disappeared when submitted to the Air Force. However, independent labs had some interesting findings.
Before we go over the actual substance, let's define molten metal(s).
Any blacksmith, steelworker, or general maintenance man can describe what molten metal is. However, there is basically NO definite answer on the internet. A quick glance at Webster's yields no results. Molten metal is a melted form of various solid elements, namely metals. That was easy. Molten metals are used to cast shapes, forms, or products for us on a daily basis. Car parts, steel beams (Go Steelers, had to say it, I'm from Pittsburgh), and basically anything that involves a specialized form is cast from a molten substance.
The Evidence
First, I would like to cite the first report I saw on this specific topic. It was on UFO Hunters (show titled UFO's: The Physical Evidence). I cannot find a YouTube, but you all know where to view this show. If anybody can provide a link that would be great.
Basically, as I remember it, the story was on the water in Canada. Fishermen noticed a UFO, saucer shaped, which ejected a large portion of molten metal into the water. As the metal hit the water it oxidized. The guys collected evidence that had been underwater for x amount of years and found a pure form of magnesium in the sandbed. Interesting.
Secondly, I would to cite the well-known case of Rendlesham Forest. The first incident, where Airman First Class John Burroughs stumbled upon a glazed craft in the woods. Note, this was prior to Col. Halt's experience. Burroughs, and his security team stumbled upon a:
I do not now whether this was some kind of machine under intelligent control or a fantastic natural phenomenon - some rare kind of energy. What I do know is that it was nothing mundane. There are no words that can adequately describe the wonder of what we saw
If I remember correctly, in a show that was featured on the History Channel last weekend, he said a black, glazed craft sitting on the ground of the forest. The craft abruptly took off and expelled "molten metal" as he described it.
I think this can serve as a warning to thoughtful Believers:
from:
http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2008/12/are-christians-the-only-ones-who-consider-et-evil/
I hope you caught his drift. In some early posts on this blog (those detailing “Balducci’s Conundrum”), I pointed out Partridge’s work on identifying clear parallels between the beliefs of those who embrace presumed ETs as “ascended masters” with theosophical/ Eastern occult/religious traditions.
Partridge echoes that same conclusion here: those whose view of ET as some sort of transcendent enlightened being tend to be intellectually rooted in theosophical thinking. But here’s the follow-up: that means these same people do NOT have the teachings of Christianity as their guiding intellectual framework.
By putting forth the thesis that those who view ETs as malevolent are intellectually rooted in Christian theological conceptions of demons, he is arguing that theology is at the heart of the disagreement over what or who ET is.
The transcendent ET vs. the malevolent ET is an intellectual parallel to Theosophy/Eastern religious ideas vs. Christianity. Partridge aims to prove this by arguing that there is no “malevolent being” tradition in Theosophy / Eastern religion that provides an explanation for how that view arose-and so the only viable explanation is the Christian notion of the demonic.
This raises two questions: (1) Has anyone else out there, aside from those whose worldview framework is based on Christianity, been calling the ETs of pop culture and “fringe” experience demons? Does anyone else besides Christians think this way about ETs? Partridge would seem to be saying “No.” (2) ”Without Christianity, would anyone have viewed ET as evil?” If there had been no Christian framework in operation to comment on the experiences of those who say they have been abducted, for example, would anyone have viewed ET as malevolent?
Bottom line: is the “malevolent ET” view uniquely Christian? What think ye? How would you rebut Partridge’s thesis (or affirm it)?
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