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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Was at a gun show Saturday and Sunday. Got to heft several I've been wondering about.

The new Bersa .380 in a very light frame is lighter than the ammo for it ... full mag is heavier than the gun alone.

Hefted the Hi-Point in all available calibers. Heavy guns but perhaps great for home defense. Ugly but simple action and except for weight they feel natural! American made and you can get a .45 for under $200 with extra mag! If I were to switch to a .380, I'd go for the Bersa in ultra-light.

54 posted on 11/17/2008 8:48:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Haven’t checked out the new Bersa, I’ll have to go do that...

I know it’s heresy to many here, but for concealed carry I shy away from the 40 and 45 cals - too big and bulky and heavy. I don’t want a firefight - I hope that IF I have to pull the gun that ends it.

But if I have to fire I want to get off 4-5 shots quickly and accurately and then scoot out of there as quickly as possible. Light guns make getting multiple controlled shots off hard, but the PF9 doesn’t buck much at all when shooting Federal Hydra-Shok JHP (which will put a big-ass hole in bodies, especially at ranges under 20 feet).

In 2 seconds I can pump 5 shots in a 5” circle at 20 feet; if half of those hit, then I tore up the rib-cage (at a minimum) of whomever played backstop. Or ate out a goodly sized chunk of his core. Yes, it takes me 5 shots to do what your 45 can do in 2, but if it gets done, it gets done.

Overall thought, the most important thing for me is to CARRY THE WEAPON. And for me, having the firearm and two extra magazines weighing in at 21 ounces (just one ounce per round carried - less than the weight of some of these other firearms without any ammo), and having it less than 1” thick, and under 6” long I never worry about carrying. It always fits in somewhere, even in the pocket of slacks without binding, being obtrusive, or difficult.

Now, for home defense, there are much bigger and badder things to deal with. But I will definitely go check out the Bersa 380! Sounds like another really good, small CCW.


60 posted on 11/17/2008 9:17:45 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: MHGinTN
Hefted the Hi-Point in all available calibers. Heavy guns but perhaps great for home defense.

You get what you pay for. I would never trust my life to something made so cheaply. Buy it as a practice gun, but for home defense, invest in something reliable with the thought that your life depends on it...because one day it just might.

74 posted on 11/18/2008 12:56:34 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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