[bvw]

What is strange is that after six plus months of repeating the basic facts of citizenship documentation, that some freepers, and this probably more than half the public, still ask basic questions or hold "impressions" of facts that are not correct.

Here then are some basic facts:

1. A Hawaiian COLB is not an original birth record. It is a summary report of what those records say.

2. It is not necessary to have been born in Hawaii to have a Hawaiian COLB. This is because up until some year (1972 iirc) non-official parties -- such as parents or grandparents -- could register a birth outside of Hawaii.

3. It is not necessary to present a birth certificate or other legal report of birth to get a passport. A passport can be gotten by self-affidavit in circumstances where no birth records are available.

4. Being a citizen is different than being "natural born".

5. What the term "natural born" in the US Constitution means is NOT settled law.

[LucyT]

For a while in Hawaii, a birth announcement from a newspaper was all that was needed to get a COLB issued.

[Kevmo]

Good post. Maybe even worthy of its own thread. We could include links to some of the more pertinent and interesting articles to help freepers come up to speed as this issue gathers momentum.

[Osage Orange]

I wasn't aware of this......

There's enough smoke around this to make me think there's a flame....

But, I dunno for sure about much these days........

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