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To: allmendream

What physical evidence do you have of Jesus? Like me all you have his words written by the students of his disciples and the faith that it is the word of God.
***When I first started looking into it, I wouldn’t even accept that level of documentation. I looked at it from the perspective of, “What do even his enemies and indifferent sources acknowledge about him?” I’ve posted about this process on FR before, using what I call the rule of COIN — where C = Concurring Sources, O = Opposing Sources, I = Indifferent sources, and N = No evidence against.

What evidence do you have of Julius Caesar or Columbus? It’s the same historical kind of evidence that we have for Jesus of Nazareth. Even his enemies acknowledged that he claimed to be God, and they put him to death because of it.

Now, what miracles have I cited? What physical evidence or process have I departed from? Where do I go off into the weeds in my scientific process when I analyze the evidence for Jesus? I have seen people who claim to be scientists deny the historicity of Caesar just so they could deny the historicity of Christ. That’s bad science, let alone bad religion.


75 posted on 06/30/2008 9:04:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
SCIENCE? If Caesar existed or not has nothing to do with the Scientific method. It has to do with History. All we have is the words that people wrote about him and the objects they made with his image and his own writings and commentaries.

OK, so we do not ONLY have the words of Jesus, we also have a few comments by a single Jewish writer sometime after his death. Other than that we have no physical or historic evidence for Jesus. There are absolutely no Roman records saying why Jesus was put to death, or even that Jesus was put to death. Of course absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

If you base your faith in Jesus Christ our Lord on physical evidence you are putting a lot of weight on some rather scant shards of evidence. I base my faith in Jesus the Christ on the Bible and my faith that it is the word of God.

80 posted on 06/30/2008 9:17:02 PM PDT by allmendream
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