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Mom,' 'dad,' banned; now 600,000 students could go
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | February 07, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/08/2008 3:57:52 AM PST by Man50D

Only months after a new state law effectively banned "mom" and "dad" from California schools, a total of 600,000 students could follow because of what has been described as the "repudiation" of 2,000 years of Christian morality, according to leaders of a new campaign assembling education alternatives.

The campaign is called California Exodus, and is being headed by Ron Gleason, pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church in Yorba Linda, who said while the country excels in social, economic, scientific and political accomplishments, it "gets low grades on the education of its children."

The issue is the state legislature's adoption of Senate Bill 777, which requires only positive portrayals of homosexual, bisexual, transgender and other alternative lifestyle choices.

"First, the law allowed public schools to voluntarily promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality. Then, the law required public schools to accept homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual teachers as role models for impressionable children. Now, the law has been changed to effectively require the positive portrayal of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to six million children in California government-controlled schools," said Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families and one of those who originally called for an abandonment of public schools.

"To rescue their children, loving parents need to find an alternative to government schools, and every church needs to make it a priority to help parents be in charge of their children's education again," he said.

He has condemned public school districts as "no longer a safe emotional environment for children" under the new law, signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that will introduce children as young as kindergarten to the homosexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

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KEYWORDS: californiaexodus; homeschoolingisgood; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; moralabsolutes; publiceducation; publicschool; publicschools; sb777
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To: NucSubs
"It reflects badly" is a complete sentence. "It" is the subject, "reflects" is the verb, "badly" is acting as a predicate adjective modifying the pronoun it. The entire sentence itself is modifying the sentence that came before that one.

The sentence is not the most lengthy, but it is complete.

281 posted on 02/09/2008 3:53:45 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: cinives

I’m glad you are managing well there! Among state homeschool laws PA is considered among the worst by the Homeschool Legal Defense Association: http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp


282 posted on 02/09/2008 4:04:26 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Yes, but the sentence is extremely unclear.

The pronoun “It” is a poorly chosen subject. But more important, there is no object. “It” reflects badly of who or what?


283 posted on 02/09/2008 4:05:06 PM PST by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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To: M0sby

No amount of “good will” can make Planned Parenthood less evil. Until the NEA/government system stops preaching free love and abortion, those who support that evil need to be reminded of the million babies a year that support helps murder. Working for a system that encourages evil is the active support for evil. Sorry if that is too blunt, but there it is.


284 posted on 02/09/2008 4:05:24 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: NucSubs
But more important,

This sentence should read, "but more importantly."

Uncle?

285 posted on 02/09/2008 4:09:18 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: narses
Your argument is certainly true in states where the NEA is strong. But I teach in Virginia where the VEA has a small membership. In fact, the VEA doesn't even have a chapter within 2 counties of where I teach. So the NEA has no say in what I teach on a day to day basis.

FWIW, I wouldn't teach in California or NY.

286 posted on 02/09/2008 4:12:41 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: cinives
It was a study by the Southern Baptist Council on Family Life. What methodology they used I don’t know.

I don't know either. Seems to me it would be a very difficult study to do rigorously and scientifically.

I do recall that when one of my siblings was a troubled teenager, my mother said she kept telling herself, "The Bible says 'Raise up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart,' but it doesn't say he won't take some detours between the time he's young and the time he's old."

What really amazed me was a segment I heard on NPR yesterday afternoon saying that most people did not understand Mike Huckabee's Biblical references, such as to the stories of David and Goliath, the loaves and fishes, and the widow's mite.

It does seem that fewer and fewer children go to Sunday school, though...this year I asked my students if they had ever heard of Noah and the Ark, and maybe 1/3 to 1/2 seemed to recognize the story...

287 posted on 02/09/2008 4:23:57 PM PST by Amelia (Cynicism ON)
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To: SoftballMominVA

What is the sex ed curriculum like? What is the rate of teen-pregnancy, teen abortion and tesen STD’s?


288 posted on 02/09/2008 4:33:44 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses
The 'sex-ed' curriculum is covered in Family Life Education. It is an 'abstinence only' curriculum with no discussion of alternative life styles, or methods of birth control. Parents can, and do, opt their children out of the program entirely. My 2 children never attended a single class.

I do not know the stats of the other questions. I suppose anyone can look those up on the web. I can see if those stats are available for my county and freep mail you with them.

289 posted on 02/09/2008 4:46:47 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: narses

"No amount of “good will” can make Planned Parenthood less evil. Until the NEA/government system stops preaching free love and abortion, those who support that evil need to be reminded of the million babies a year that support helps murder. Working for a system that encourages evil is the active support for evil. Sorry if that is too blunt, but there it is."

I see...so...is it your intention, then, to barage any and all discussions that involve Public Eduction with your opinion that we who work in, or send our children to, public school are evil?

Will you do so without regard to the topic being discussed?

Are you saying that you would then feel it was your "duty" per se to "remind me" and other "evil workers" of the evil that we are doing?

Just being clear...


290 posted on 02/09/2008 4:54:01 PM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: M0sby

LOL, go ahead tell me more about what I will do.


291 posted on 02/09/2008 5:11:18 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

I have taught for 10 years in the same county. I have never been told/asked/commanded to teach anything that violated my Christian beliefs. In addition, I did not earn my teaching credentials in a liberal school, but at Bob Jones University in South Carolina.


292 posted on 02/09/2008 5:11:28 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: narses

Asked...


293 posted on 02/09/2008 5:13:20 PM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: SoftballMominVA

See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/12/AR2007111201716.html

RICHMOND, Nov. 12 — Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine has cut off state funding for abstinence-only sex education programs, citing recent studies finding that teenagers should also be taught about birth control and condoms to protect against pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

Kaine (D) submitted plans last month to close a budget shortfall in part by eliminating a $275,000 matching grant for a federal program that provided funds for 14 nonprofit groups that taught abstinence only.

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Planned Parenthood of Virginia, which had lobbied for the change in policy, sent out a statement Monday praising Kaine for joining its nationwide campaign to eliminate abstinence-only programs, which urge youths to refrain from sex until marriage.

“There is no evidence that abstinence-only programs equip teens with the education they need to delay sexual activity or prevent unintended pregnancies or the spread of sexually transmitted disease,” said Becky Reid, an organizer for Planned Parenthood Health Systems.


294 posted on 02/09/2008 5:13:24 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

Our county follows the old curriculum. I cannot account for the rest of the state.


295 posted on 02/09/2008 5:13:58 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: M0sby

Watch. Maybe learn.


296 posted on 02/09/2008 5:14:08 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses
On that subject......Do you expect me (or other Christian teacher) to justify every program taught in my school? Am I to go into every classroom burning books that offend me? Demand that every teacher get down on their knees and pray for salvation? Stand at the corners while students pass and preach from John?

If I did any of those acts, I would be an incompetent teacher. I was hired to teach reading, not to be the censor or religious studies teacher. My classroom is my domain and I am responsible for everything that goes on within it.

297 posted on 02/09/2008 5:18:09 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: narses

I asked a question. (several actually)
You did not answer it.
You still haven’t.

Your last post is nothing but arrogance.

Good day...I will now add you the ignore list.


298 posted on 02/09/2008 5:18:28 PM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: SoftballMominVA

I understand. Nonetheless, if the enterprise itself is evil, helping it is also, regardless of how benign your part is. If you have the Faith, why teach where you cannot teach the Faith? Where beliefs that are antognistic to your Faith are taught while your Faith must be silent?


299 posted on 02/09/2008 5:29:26 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: M0sby

Yawn. You asked loaded and perjorativbe questions and tried to put words in my mouth. Sorry, you want to play that game, you get the answers you got from me.


300 posted on 02/09/2008 5:30:29 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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