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Mom,' 'dad,' banned; now 600,000 students could go
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | February 07, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/08/2008 3:57:52 AM PST by Man50D

Only months after a new state law effectively banned "mom" and "dad" from California schools, a total of 600,000 students could follow because of what has been described as the "repudiation" of 2,000 years of Christian morality, according to leaders of a new campaign assembling education alternatives.

The campaign is called California Exodus, and is being headed by Ron Gleason, pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church in Yorba Linda, who said while the country excels in social, economic, scientific and political accomplishments, it "gets low grades on the education of its children."

The issue is the state legislature's adoption of Senate Bill 777, which requires only positive portrayals of homosexual, bisexual, transgender and other alternative lifestyle choices.

"First, the law allowed public schools to voluntarily promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality. Then, the law required public schools to accept homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual teachers as role models for impressionable children. Now, the law has been changed to effectively require the positive portrayal of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to six million children in California government-controlled schools," said Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families and one of those who originally called for an abandonment of public schools.

"To rescue their children, loving parents need to find an alternative to government schools, and every church needs to make it a priority to help parents be in charge of their children's education again," he said.

He has condemned public school districts as "no longer a safe emotional environment for children" under the new law, signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that will introduce children as young as kindergarten to the homosexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

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To: SoftballMominVA

WOW!
That’s awesome...amazing...FANTASTIC!!!
What a great DAY!
:-)

And you KNOW what a Transition Specialist does?
WOW!
NO ONE knows what I do...KNOW ONE!
LOL!

Sometimes I tell people it’s like being a social worker...but I HATE the connotation (in Seattle at least..)!

Yep, I do everything from teaching students how to clean their bathroom or make scrambled eggs to filling out job applications and FAFSA forms!
And this year I have a student who will likely go to the University of Washington post graduation.
I think he is not learning disabled however, he is parentally disabled...
I will spend the next 4.5 months helping him with the “stuff” his mother (and father???) should be helping him with...
And we’ve had a few conversations about deodorant as well!
LOL!
Gotta LOVE teenage boys!

Anyway....thanks for writing back...:-)


261 posted on 02/09/2008 11:30:16 AM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: SoftballMominVA

“I’ve learned about several different programs and websites from home schooling folks. They can be awesome resources for special education teachers because they are also teaching to a small group. What works with their group, should work with mine.”

Seriously..because I was going to bring Reading Mastery to high school because I KNEW it worked...but, it was also really, really simple and very juvenile. The 100 Easy Lessons (Distar I think?) is also simple and juvenile..but OH SO MUCH SHORTER!
LOL


262 posted on 02/09/2008 11:42:27 AM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: M0sby

Look into “6-Way Paragraphs.” They have fiction and non fiction versions as well as beginning (A-E), intermediate (D-H) and advanced (F-I). I think they are put out by Jamestown Press. They use excellent short passages that focus on finding the main idea - the bug-a-boo of many an inexperienced reader.


263 posted on 02/09/2008 11:48:36 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

“Look into “6-Way Paragraphs.” They have fiction and non fiction versions as well as beginning (A-E), intermediate (D-H) and advanced (F-I). I think they are put out by Jamestown Press. They use excellent short passages that focus on finding the main idea - the bug-a-boo of many an inexperienced reader.”

GREAT IDEA!
I always find myself saying, “Close your eyes and GUESS what will happen next”...and lo and behold frequently the words are RIGHT THERE!
Decoding + Predictability (and the ability TO predict) + Fluency = SUCCESS!

I just went and looked..Jamestown Publications it IS~...

THANK YOU!


264 posted on 02/09/2008 11:57:08 AM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: gracesdad

That’s a Baptist statistic. Perhaps it’s not true of all denominations, but it is something to consider.

As the Jesuits always said, give me a child and by age 7 he’s mine for life. So it stands to reason if you put your kids in daycare and other schools with humanist educators, that’s what you get.


265 posted on 02/09/2008 12:37:21 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: ontap

From a parent’s perspective on my kid’s education in K thru 6th grade, parent-teacher conferences were primarily a joke. Parent and teacher met, parent listened to teacher, parent aired some issues, nothing different happened in the classroom.

As a result, I homeschooled mine from mid 6th grade on. I didn’t realize all the stress the school made ME, the PARENT, feel until I had mine at home. My kid has a 4.0 in college and a few of her old teachers from elementary school are completely surprised, even tho I told them for years that she wasn’t listening because she was bored out of her skull.

Long story short, when teachers start teaching kids with a good curriculum, start challenging able kids, and take responsibility for what happens in the classroom, I’ll believe the schools really want the kids to learn something besides socialization.

In my school days, my parents never went to parent/teacher conferences. That was only for the parents of kids who needed help or discipline. The “good” kids parents got to stay home. My parents never even asked me if I’d done my homework on any given night, yet I was at the top of my class.

Parents are not the only motivators of kids. If teachers can’t instill self-motivation in the classroom, then don’t blame it all on the parents.


266 posted on 02/09/2008 12:45:42 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Poser

Not according to the Supreme Court re Pierce vs Society of Sisters.

“the child is not the mere creature of the state”...


267 posted on 02/09/2008 12:47:56 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: achilles2000

Pennsylvania is not at all difficult to homeschool. Two pieces of paper at the beginning of every year, no permission required to take them out, then a portfolio and so-called evaluation at the end of every year.

Piece of cake, believe me.


268 posted on 02/09/2008 12:50:25 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Twink
These parents won’t educate their kids even if they didn’t have a public/free school to send them to.

That is a statement made so often with no study behind it. I wonder why anyone gives it a moment's credence. The vast majority of parents do care - they have neither the time nor the knowledge to know that their kids are not learning much at all. The government schools and teachers lie by sending home report cards with As, Bs or Cs on them so the parent is deceived.

I know quite a few inner city Catholic schools who educate the poorest of the poor - parents who scrape together a few thousand dollars a year to give their kids a good, safe education out of the public schools. I work in a lot of these schools and I hear the teachers talking about the family situations of the kids. If these types of parents are dedicated enough to do it, so would many more if their tax money was not taken by government schools.

269 posted on 02/09/2008 12:59:48 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: cinives

“the child is not the mere creature of the state”...

I am pretty sure that the home schoolers have take that one to court and lost. The state can, in fact, mandate the curriculum you must teach. At least in my state, you must be approved for home schooling.


270 posted on 02/09/2008 1:02:20 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

take=taken (how terribly embarrassing)


271 posted on 02/09/2008 1:02:52 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Amelia

It was a study by the Southern Baptist Council on Family Life. What methodology they used I don’t know.


272 posted on 02/09/2008 1:11:46 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Poser

Sorry, you are wrong. The state cannot dictate the curriculum. They’d LIKE to, but there is no court case upholding that.

In Pa you simply inform the SD you are homeschooling. No approval necessary. If you have a special needs child you have to have a teacher, doctor or psychiatrist sign the affidavit, but that’s the only circumstance.

You also submit a list of objectives to the SD. I’ve included my list here, which I used every year from 6th thru 12th grade. Enjoy. As you can see, it’s very non-specific.

Subject - Educational Objectives

English
Read classical and current literature.
Write compositions of interest.
Study proper spelling, grammar and vocabulary.

Arithmetic
Learn various concepts in mathematics and their application.

Science
Study concepts in science, engineering, and technology, including the scientific method of analysis and the application of skeptical thinking to evaluate claims of fact.

Geography
Develop further understanding of the physical and spatial relationships between land, sea, and air, and the distribution of plant and animal life on earth including man and industry.

History of the US and Pennsylvania
Describe the relationship between historical events and current events for cultural perspective.

Social Studies/Civics
Study the rights and responsibilities of citizens. Study other cultures and their history and the impact on the United States.

Safety Education
Instruct the student regarding issues of safety, including continuous instruction in the dangers and prevention of fires.

Health and Physiology
Emphasize good practice in exercise, nutrition, and hygiene.

Physical Education
Provide opportunities for, and encouragement of, frequent exercise.

Music
Provide opportunities for musical expression, and to expose the student to a diverse range of musical instruments and styles.

Art
Provide opportunities for creative expression through art projects, and expose the student to artistic works.


273 posted on 02/09/2008 1:23:52 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Poser

Nah - my fingers sometimes are so fast that the key doesn’t get fully depressed :)


274 posted on 02/09/2008 1:24:56 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SoftballMominVA; M0sby
I recommend Dr. Dave’s Issues and Concerns over on MSN Groups.

http://groups.msn.com/DrDavesIssuesConcerns

(Very safe, specifically for teachers, and classroom oriented.)

I rarely, rarely go there.

Wintertime.

275 posted on 02/09/2008 1:47:57 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: cinives
From a parent’s perspective on my kid’s education in K thru 6th grade, parent-teacher conferences were primarily a joke.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Exactly!

Just what good are parent teacher conferences anyway! They have **never** in my life as a child, or the lives of my children, made the slightest difference at all! The teachers do what they very well want anyway!

Teacher conferences, either officially sponsored or parent arranged, never did anything to get my government high school to use something other than the “New” Math.

My conferences with the teachers or principals never did anything to see that my children were placed in the math or reading levels ( 4 years advanced) on which they were really working.

Teachers here on Free Republic are constantly whining about parent involvement in the school, and my total experience from my first grade onward to my own children is that it make NO difference whatsoever!

My husband and I always showed up for our 10 minutes of alloted time,,,but,,,honestly, what a waste of time!

276 posted on 02/09/2008 2:06:29 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: ontap

Yes. Thanks. Excellent point. I really need to improve on that.

Then again, I am NOT a teacher trying to defend the quality of the public schools or pubic school teachers by posting grammatically incorrect comments.

And I only made one mistake.

By the way, you forgot to proofread your post again and missed those pesky closing HTML tags and a couple of quotation marks.


277 posted on 02/09/2008 2:40:52 PM PST by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Your post illustrates why I am very careful with my grammar, mechanics, and spelling when I post here. People will take any error and use it as a weapon against me.

As you should and as it should.

As the husband of a public school teacher, you need to watch your posts so as to not look uneducated. It reflects badly.

Naw. Bad logic. I am an 41 year old engineering major who meet my wife fifteen years ago. My grammar skills reflect as much on my wife's teaching ability (or yours) as Ron Reagan Jr's ballet skills reflect on his father's political legacy.

Now were I a public school teacher defending the quality of schools or the teachers in them you're criticism would be much more damning. As it stands now, its simply a rather weak attempt to deflect legitimate criticism. You might as well claim my thinning hair reflects badly on my engineering credentials.

I would love to take a refresher course in English grammar though.

278 posted on 02/09/2008 2:52:37 PM PST by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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To: SoftballMominVA
It reflects badly.

By the way, isn't THAT a sentence fragment? Certainly is at the very least a stylist error and unbalanced. Should it not read "They" reflect badly on "you"? You did use the plural "posts".

"It" reflects badly on what or whom? There are at least half a dozen possibilities.

Maybe my command of English is not all that far removed from yours?

279 posted on 02/09/2008 3:08:34 PM PST by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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To: cinives

“Sorry, you are wrong. The state cannot dictate the curriculum. They’d LIKE to, but there is no court case upholding that.

In Pa you simply inform the SD you are homeschooling. “

Am I wrong in every state or just PA? At least in my area, your curriculum has to be approved by the school district. Since they have to approve, they dictate the curriculum.


280 posted on 02/09/2008 3:19:28 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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