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To: rustbucket
He was legitimately acting under authority of the 1789 Judiciary Act where a Supreme Court Justice is authorized to issue writs of habeas corpus.

And nobody, least of all me, is disputing he had that power. Not only did the Judiciary Act say so but the 1807 Bollman decision (made by the entire court and not just one justice) ruled that the a Supreme Court justice could issue a writ.

Maybe if I keep repeating the law to you enough times it will sink in. One can only hope.

Maybe is you stuck to the issue, whether Merryman was a Supreme Court case or a District Court case, you wouldn't have to.

did read O'Connor's stay and quoted from it. I stated that she had done her action as a circuit justice. My point was that in an emergency, she took action without a call from the lower court. So did Taney, and he could act under the 1789 law, emergency or no emergency.

No, you went further than that. When asked for examples of a single Justice issuing a decision on behalf of the entire Supreme Court you offer two examples where justices issued stays. In neither case could their actions be classified as court decisions. In both instances the stays were temporary and ordered only so another court, either a District Court or the Supreme Court, could consider the case. That is a far cry from a judicial decision, and perhaps you're unclear as to the difference?

I have no sympathy for the Rosenbergs. but Justice Douglas made a valid Supreme Court ruling though I disagree with his argument.

He did not make a Supreme Court ruling. He issued a stay so that the entire court could consider the matter. The court issued the ruling, not Justice Douglas. He just delayed matters until the entire court could rule on it. If Justice Douglas had the authority to issue a ruling in the name of the entire court, why did the entire court have to rule on it?

As I read the law in force back then this morning, I'm not sure Lincoln could have appealed Taney's Ex Parte Merryman ruling. If the whole Supreme Court could only hear appellate cases as you and the Constitution says, then the whole Supreme Court could not hear an appeal to Taney's perfectly legal action as a Supreme Court Justice ruling on habeas Corpus per the 1789 law. Taney's ruling stands, fully legal, unappealable.

Perhaps because you're reading the law, and the Constitution wrong? The Constitution says that the Supreme Court will have original jurisdiction over matters involving foreign representatives or where states are involved. The Merryman matter involved neither of those, it was an entirely federal matter - U.S. Army, the President, and an individual. Maryland wasn't involved. So the Supreme Court only had appellate jurisdiction. So Taney could not issue a decision for the court, the matter had no business being before the court to begin with. The matter belonged in district court, and that decision could be appealed to the Supreme Court. So you were right by accident. Lincoln could have appealed the Taney decision from the district court. He did not. We can argue the whys of that at some other time.

No, it wasn't. If the 1789 law is in error, it might be, but it was not.

It is not the Judiciary act or the Constitution that is in error. It's you.

303 posted on 12/05/2007 10:35:09 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Perhaps because you're reading the law, and the Constitution wrong? The Constitution says that the Supreme Court will have original jurisdiction over matters involving foreign representatives or where states are involved. The Merryman matter involved neither of those, it was an entirely federal matter - U.S. Army, the President, and an individual. Maryland wasn't involved. So the Supreme Court only had appellate jurisdiction. So Taney could not issue a decision for the court, the matter had no business being before the court to begin with.

From Ex Parte Milligan:

The decision that the individual shall be imprisoned must always precede the application for a writ of habeas corpus, and this writ must always be for the purpose of revising that decision, and therefore appellate in its nature.

306 posted on 12/05/2007 12:12:34 PM PST by rustbucket
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