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To: robertpaulsen
Correct. I said it refers to state Militias.

When it clearly doesn't. In other words, you lied and knew you were lying when you did it.

Correct again. And to what Militia is it referring? A different Militia than what is mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8 -- you know, the one with officers appointed by each state?

You have no reason -- zero, zilch, nada -- to believe that the Founders were referring to anything BUT a well regulated (organized, armed, and accoutered) state Militia

If you were as half-educated as you pretend, you would know that such issues are discussed in the Federalist Papers ( starting for example, #29). There is no such thing as a "state militia", since by definition the militia is the body of people at arms. A "state militia" would only be that portion of the militia present in a given state (where the body of the Constitution limits the power of the federal government by reserving to the state the election of officers for that portion of the militia).

As far as the 2nd amendment goes, it does not secure the right for the "militia" in any case, it secures it for the people.

I note that you also followed that with an insult, which tells me you have no interest other than to disrupt the thread.

I rarely insult others; you genuinely seemed to be a young, ignorant (not stupid, just ignorant, since you don't know what words like "state" or "militia" mean) person because of the arguments you are making. There is nothing shameful about your ignorance, but you should try to correct it before you reach adulthood.

349 posted on 11/05/2007 7:26:27 PM PST by Technogeeb
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To: Technogeeb
"There is no such thing as a "state militia"

I see. Then what was the Virginia Militia? The Maine Militia? The Vermont Militia?

"A "state militia" would only be that portion of the militia present in a given state"

Ah. And the other portion?

"As far as the 2nd amendment goes, it does not secure the right for the "militia" in any case, it secures it for the people."

Correct. The people in the well regulated, state Militia. It did not secure that right for every person. Or do you think it did?

Congress has the constitutional power to organize the militia of each state. They did so in the Militia Act of 1792. The second amendment protects the RKBA of those individuals as part of their state Militia.

Try rebutting that with facts instead of name-calling. If you can.

350 posted on 11/06/2007 10:48:04 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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