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To: robertpaulsen
And the one thing you haven't done is relate any of those to the second amendment.

"No free man ever shall be debarred the use of arms." "Shall not be infringed". "That every man be armed."

Go away you pathetic troll...

131 posted on 10/18/2007 6:49:51 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
"No free man ever shall be debarred the use of arms."

Are you trying to quote Jefferson? Then get it right, you lazy lapdog. The correct quote was, "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms within his own lands.

First, a "freeman" (not free man) was a citizen with full rights. Freemen (or freeholders) was another term for "the people".

Second, this quote had nothing to do with the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Jefferson was proposing that this be included in the 1776 Virginia State Constitution.

Third, it referred to arms used on one's own property.

Fourth, it was rejected.

"That every man be armed."

Another misquote. Get off your lazy a$$ and do some research of your own.

Patrick Henry was debating Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12 (the militia clause) of the U.S. Constitution, NOT the second amendment. That clause gives Congress the power to arm the state militias -- but that power is concurrent with the states arming the militia.

"May we not discipline and arm them, as well as Congress, if the power be concurrent? so that our militia shall have two sets of arms, double sets of regimentals, &c.; and thus, at a very great cost, we shall be doubly armed. The great object is, that every man (IN THE MILITIA -rp) be armed. But can the people afford to pay for double sets of arms, &c.? Every one who is able may have a gun. But we have learned, by experience, that, necessary as it is to have arms, and though our Assembly has, by a succession of laws for many years, endeavored to have the militia completely armed, it is still far from being the case. When this power is given up to Congress without limitation or bounds, how will your militia be armed?"

139 posted on 10/18/2007 8:26:08 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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