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To: Diplomat; T'wit; dbehsman; Jim Robinson
To: Diplomat
>> T'wit, if you're a Christian/Jew/other, he should be forgiven and you should ask the Admin to reinstate his account.

As a Christian, I did forgive him (not that that is anyone's business but mine). I did more than that. RA wrote one last note to me, saying he knew I was trying to get him banned. That was false, but I thought I heard sadness or regret in his note. I pondered it and posted a reply offering to intercede with Jim Robinson if he were willing to rededicate himself to FR. RA did not respond -- which is not much of a surprise, especially given all we've heard since. But I had to try.

Membership in Free Republic is a privilege. I have no sympathy for those who come here for any purpose other than supporting the conservative cause as Jim Robinson defines it. RA neither supports it nor is willing to follow its simple rules of courtesy and good manners. He does not belong here.

1,408 posted on 06/03/2007 5:42:54 AM EDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)

To: T'wit
Yea, did a little more reading and I’ll have to agree with you.

Looks like RadioAstronomer was looking to get banned as further justification of his/their own paranoia. Stamping out Christianity really does seem to be the mission of academia.

Perhaps the Cho massacre hit too close to home. I say Cho was only actng on what he had been taught to do. I remember getting some of the same garbage taught in college. Notice how Cho's manifesto remains unpublished.

1,409 posted on 06/03/2007 5:24:36 PM EDT by Diplomat
Insanely funny comedy crops up in the most unexpected places. While everyone in the land will certainly appreciate your enormous contribution to our great nation by “supporting the conservative cause as Jim Robinson defines it,” to use T’wit’s stirring phrase, some of us wonder if you’ve done as much as the now-banned poster you’re so cavalierly trashing.

Did you know Radio Astronomer came to this country as an orphaned child? Did you know he has repaid his adopted country by spending his life in its defense? In addition to stints on active military service in the USAF, he has also worked for NASA and presently puts in 16-hour days for the DOD.

What have you blow hards ever done? Just curious. [JR exempted from this question; he was in the Navy].

Now, I realize that the USAF, NASA, and DOD don’t count for all that much here in the land of Super Mucho Macho Internet Warriors who valiantly rail on and on and on for post after post after post after post having no effect whatever on anything except each others’ egos, but, it’s great that we can all be so tough when it’s all beer and pixels, isn’t it? Did Rades slip a bit in the estimation of The Animals Who Are More Equal Than Others here in not frothing at the mouth quite enough whenever Terri Schiavo’s name came up? Did he commit the unforgivable sin of posting actual science? Yipes! He'll never fit in! Damn to hell a life spent defending your right to trash him and everything about him! He failed to bow before Your Personal Interpretation of the Enormous Issue Du Jour. The horror! The horror!

What is really pathetic, though, is a post like 1409 in this thread. The Cho remarks, while ambiguous enough to escape an instant abuse report, are grotesquely nasty. It’s lots of fun hurling gratuitous insults at colleges, the college-educated, and people who must be virulent atheists because they don’t instantly accept your personal interpretation of your religion (especially after they've been banned), comparing a decent, selfless patriot to a homicidal maniac ought to be beneath even the most twisted little snot in the third grade.

That it exists here speaks volumes.

I’ll post this much and then leave the thread: Radio Astronomer, has devoted his life to defending your right to expose your idiocy on the internet. Please continue to exercise it to the fullest.

And now, as Madame Arcati said, you may stew in your own juice.

1,410 posted on 06/03/2007 7:29:46 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs; Diplomat
Good post.

Diplomat put his foot in it big time there!

1,411 posted on 06/03/2007 7:42:02 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Gumlegs
Look, I made these same charges before RA got banned or I became aware that RA got banned. Irrespective of that, not a single member of the evo group or Darwin central ever replied back to them on the several threads for which I made these allegations.

In other words, no one wanted to state otherwise or cared to argue otherwise. Until we actually get to read Cho’s insane writings for ourselves, none of us will get the opportunity to know what he felt motivated him to commit the massacre. On the other hand, I witnessed and sat through enough b.s. courses in college to know you are not even going to attempt to defend academia and that which classifies as higher learning these days.

As to the need to defend RA, he by his own words (presuming his alias at Darwin Central is the same), does not care to be defended nor return to FR. He was victimized just like I asserted in the earlier post. Furthermore, if you’d bother to read any of my prior posts on this thread, I defended RA and had nothing for praise for him. My recent remarks were made based off the assumption that RadioAstronomer on Darwin Central is the same person as the Freeper who got banned.

The difference between RA and most of the other active DC posters, is that I did not expect him to fizzle out in such manner. He easily could have constrained himself as he likewise must have during 100s of prior thread arguments. IMO, he chose to be banned as a show of support to PH who he felt was wronged. I do not remember his banning or why, so RA may well have a very valid point here. One thing was clear, he was upset by it and he considers PH a close friend.

Since you know nothing of my families military/NASA (now that I know this counts) service and ultimate sacrifice, nor have I ever posted anything about it, except for the obituary of an uncle who served on a Liberty ship, I’ll ignore your wholly ignorant assertions on such matters. I honor RA's military service, in fact, I didn't know of it until your post. But this again goes to the character of RA, as he does not need to, nor did he see the need to brag about such things. He liked arguing science, he knew his physics, etc. But his military service is not a surprise to me, his profanity laced "to get banned" tirad was.

With regard to Cho, until we get his manifesto, speculation as to his motivation is a very valid topic of discussion. One that would seem highly important, but one in which all debate and inquiry seem to be universally shutdown. I find no current discussion in the MSM about the subject. Suppose his manifesto says he believed he was doing the work of XXXX, who told him who the world’s great evil truly was? I know one thing, if Cho was a regular attendee of the Crystal Cathedral, you could bet the farm his name would still be in the news and would used as a regular foil against Republicans.

1,412 posted on 06/03/2007 10:32:40 PM PDT by Diplomat
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