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Andrew Bacevich Jr. Killed in Iraq ~ Son of Prominent War Critic Dies By Suicide Bomber....
Iraqslogger ^ | 05/14/2007 9:30 PM ET | staff

Posted on 05/16/2007 9:18:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A renowned professor and prominent critic of the Bush Administration's invasion of Iraq has now lost his son to the war. Lt. Andrew Bacevich, Jr. was killed by a suicide bomber on Sunday.

A local Boston station reports that the younger Bacevich's captain said in an e-mail to the family that he was killed by a suicide bomber in a white sedan his unit had stopped on a main highway south of Samarra.

The DoD's official release of the incident reported on Monday that, "1st Lt. Andrew J. Bacevich, 27, of Walpole, Mass., died May 13 in Balad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near his unit during combat patrol operations in Salah Ad Din Province, Iraq."

Andrew Bacevich, professor of International Relations at Boston University, has a long list of publications supporting his self-label of conservative, but he became disillusioned by what he viewed as an overreliance on military power driving foreign policy choices by "conservative" neocons of the Bush Administration.

In a conversation discussing his latest book, The New American Militarism: How Americans are Seduced by War, Bacevich responded to a question asking if the neocons "believed too deeply in the hype of American hyperpower?," with the interviewer clarifying, "Ruling groups, even while manipulating others, often seem to almost hypnotically convince themselves as well."

Bacevich responded:

That's why I myself tend not to buy into the charge that Bush and others blatantly lied us into this war. I think they believed most of what they claimed.

(Excerpt) Read more at iraqslogger.com ...


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To: whd23

You can question whatever you like — you’re still a vicious, mean, contemptible sonofabitch!

You leave the presidents daughters alone — they are not fair game for you or anyone else.

YUp, you are a vicious, mean, contemptible sonofabitch!

Get it?


81 posted on 05/16/2007 1:55:49 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Bacevich Sr. emboldened the enemy by telling them that America is being defeated and we don't belong in the Middle East to begin with. The son paid for the sins of the father.

There was a legitimate debate about whether this was a war that we could win and whether our goals were attainable. Demonizing those you disagree with won't fly.

82 posted on 05/16/2007 1:57:01 PM PDT by x
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
It is disingenuous to claim that this was a delusion from the start.

Agreed, but the new "War Czar" crap makes me think there is delusion now.

83 posted on 05/16/2007 2:00:42 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Nappy is the new N-word.)
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To: Beckwith
Wipe the spittle off your monitor.

You seem to lack any form of reading comprehension, even when it's spelled out to you. And then you name-call to compensate for your own short-comings. If only FR had the ignore feature. < plonk! >

84 posted on 05/16/2007 2:01:39 PM PDT by whd23
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

May your Son be wrapped in the Loving Arms of Our Lord, and provided comfort and tranquility in the Kingdom of God Almighty.

May the Lord comfort you, as well, in this, your time of loss and sadness.

:O)

P


85 posted on 05/16/2007 2:09:08 PM PDT by papasmurf (Patience is, not only, a virtue...it's also a weapon. Be patient FRed!)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
It was an honest assertion that the Iraqi people wanted to be free and most Iraqis would fight for that freedom. It is disingenuous to claim that this was a delusion from the start.

Sure, it's not like there was 50 years of palistinian-Isreal conflict and the total failure of the palestinian people to form any sort or reasonable (sane) government. Or even simply come to the conclusion that killing the infidels was getting them no where. Add this non-example of a potential problem with all the middle eastern societies that successfully formed Republics on the back of islam over the past 5 decades. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't believe allowing the Iraqii's to write their own constitution wouldn't be a smashing success either.

Yes, you are totally correct, even the most detailed pre-invasion analysis ever performed could never have anticipated the problem of an islamic people being incapable of governing themselves. It was inconcievable before now and disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Yea, that's the ticket.

86 posted on 05/16/2007 2:22:36 PM PDT by Diplomat (Iraq is the grandest of all delusions. Iraq = USA's palestine)
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To: 3niner
I do not believe that he deserved to lose his son, and I certainly don't think that his son deserved to die. However, he did contribute to the death of his son. Sedition matters, that's why it's illegal, and also why the laws against it used to be enforced.

Well put. Needs repeating.

87 posted on 05/16/2007 2:22:37 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Diplomat

Wow. I think that set a new record for sarcasm in one post.


88 posted on 05/16/2007 2:28:51 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very sad. Our prayers go up for his grieving family.


89 posted on 05/16/2007 2:30:32 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Thank you...it’s all just so very sad and tragic.


90 posted on 05/16/2007 2:32:07 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate you seeing the humor and not taking my reply as a personal attack.


91 posted on 05/16/2007 2:34:41 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: whd23
Bacevich Sr. emboldened the enemy by telling them that America is being defeated...

Was this before or after OBL & crew killed 3,000 people on American soil?

OBL and crew were inspired by American defeatism long before 9/11. They looked at our losses in Vietnam, Lebanon, and Somalia and calculated that we cannot accept long wars or significant casualties. In each of those instances, politicians caved to pressure brought on by a defeatist American news media, and people like Bacevich Sr.

Should all war critics lose a child? Would that please you?

Yes. Absolutely.

92 posted on 05/16/2007 2:38:26 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Marysecretary

Yes,...thanks for saying that...I disagree with the father however....


93 posted on 05/16/2007 2:41:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: cubreporter

I read that he persevered in the military, despite having asthma...


94 posted on 05/16/2007 2:45:39 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: GOP_Party_Animal; whd23

I have a son in Iraq and I am a critic of the war.

whd23 asked: “Should all war critics lose a child? Would that please you?”

You answered: “Yes. Absolutely.”

You should be horse whipped for the low life scum you are.


95 posted on 05/16/2007 2:46:58 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: GOP_Party_Animal; leadpenny
I posted: "Should all war critics lose a child? Would that please you?"

You posted: "Yes. Absolutely."

That's all I really need to know about what type of person you are. You'd like more of our men and women in the armed forces to die because of things their parents say or write, and strangely you think you are a supporter of the military...

Fascist would seem a more accurate description.

96 posted on 05/16/2007 2:58:54 PM PDT by whd23
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To: whd23; leadpenny

When someone asks me if I’d like to see innocent people killed, how do I dignify such an asinine question? You can handle it your way; I prefer to give asinine answers.


98 posted on 05/16/2007 3:05:16 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

He put his own personal problems aside and did his job. Some people are just special as this young man was.


99 posted on 05/16/2007 3:10:04 PM PDT by cubreporter
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