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American Idol 2007--Live Thread (Part II)
FOX ^ | 3-13-07

Posted on 03/13/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: Apple Blossom
Rush is tackling this right now. Saying that Mrs. Bill Clinton has painted a big target on her "muumuu, caftan, or pantsuit!" He can't believe that the Repubs are not running with the ball on this.
761 posted on 03/14/2007 9:32:05 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: silent_jonny

Can we please make it official that his new name is "Sangina"??


762 posted on 03/14/2007 9:37:24 AM PDT by LivingNet
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To: ken5050
I propose a new drinking game..every time one of the judges says the word "pitchy"

Or how about when one of the judges says "this is a singing competition"?
763 posted on 03/14/2007 9:51:47 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (I used 2 think people were factually ignorant but talking 2 liberals I realize people R just stupid.)
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To: Fawn

When is Elliot's new album due out?


764 posted on 03/14/2007 10:56:12 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: silent_jonny
Kudos to you for your admirable artwork!

I couldn't watch the show Tues nite, I was at the Celtic Woman concert in Pittsburgh at the Benedum Center. Happy St. Paddy's Day in advance to everybody!

765 posted on 03/14/2007 10:59:04 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: TonyWpi

I miss Kelli Pickler...and even Lt. Dan.




It is bad when you have a hankering for Lt. Dan! ;)


766 posted on 03/14/2007 11:01:40 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Wolfstar

It seems pretty clear that Simon and his crew want one of the Black female singers to win this season. Just like the season where they pushed Fantasia and continually downgraded Jasmine's performance, also Diana DeGarmo's performance. I personally was voting for Jasmine, and when she was voted off, I lost all interest in Season 3. To this day, pundits continually push the line that Season 3 was crappy because people kept voting for Jasmine over Jennifer Hudson. Well, duh! That was my vote they were knocking!


767 posted on 03/14/2007 11:05:56 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: Ciexyz
Elliott's "Wait" Is Over

American Idol Top 3 finisher Elliott Yamin will finally unleash his self-titled debut album March 20. Elliott says the first single, "Movin' On," is not about the show. "You know, I never did actually think about that," he said. "I guess I am moving on, but none of this would be possible without that show. I'm forever in debt to that show." "Wait for You" will be single No. 2

http://75.119.144.110/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DeenasDailyDirt&tp_preview=true&CFID=4342879&CFTOKEN=81211429

768 posted on 03/14/2007 11:14:54 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.hartzvictims.org/)
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To: Wolfstar
You're right of course! Instead of searching and letting a prospects abilities shine, they are trying to manufacture a 'star'. Instead of just choosing the best singers, they are trying tp pick certain singers, within certain genres. I hope it bites them in the a55 again!

The only one willing to play 'dress up' is stinkgaya. Maybe that's why they keep him around??

There's no real incentive to win. Look at last year. Taylor AND Kat won cars. Taylor and 5 or 6 of the runner ups got contracts right away. Simon has bad mouthed Taylor every chance he gets and then complains because Taylor's sales are down. Gee, Simon, if you think tearing Taylor down will increase sales you're wrong, but Simon knows that. He's trying his best to ruin Taylor's career.

I think Lakisha, Melinda and Jordan all said they admired screamtasia, so you're right again about hwere they would wind up. Jordan perhaps being able to cross genres better than the other two.

Chris S is the only guy that I can stomach listening to, and his song choices are weak.

If, too many of the good ones fall, I just might start voting for stinkgaya, let them market him to the massess. Maybe that's what they want, after all, Michael Jackson part II. Didn't MJ say he wants to return to the states for a comeback? Maketing stinkgaya will give them some practice on what might work for Jackson.

769 posted on 03/14/2007 11:25:38 AM PDT by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Those words read like he is secretly peeping through someone's window. Wait, didn't he have web cam photos of himself naked on line?


770 posted on 03/14/2007 11:28:02 AM PDT by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: Netizen
You could be right about Brandon being the one voted off. Brandon, Haley and Stephanie all forgot their words. Of the three, Brandon was probably the weakest.

Maybe I just didn't hear it, but when did Stephanie forget her words? She didn't go to the "other" part of the song, but I didn't hear her miss anything. Brandon & Haley...another story.

Simon was right about Haley, there were some parts of the song vocally that were pretty good, not enough support in her breathing at the beginning though.

Brandon runs the risk of being forgotten just because he went first, was very nervous, and forgot his lyrics. The triple whammy may get him sent home.

One more thing...I'm not getting to the "dialidol.com" figures like last year. The data I'm getting is old, and I'm not finding the current weeks info. If someone posts the link in the thread it works fine, I'm just not getting there when I go to the site on my own. Any suggestions about what I'm doing wrong?

771 posted on 03/14/2007 11:32:12 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: Apple Blossom
They talked about Haley, Stephanie and Brandon on FNC this morning, showing the clips.

I also read an article on it earlier today. I'll see if I can locate it. Might take a few since I read so many of them.

Here's a link to one of the raw numbers for dial idol

It's what I had open at the time.

772 posted on 03/14/2007 11:55:25 AM PDT by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: Ciexyz
Just like the season where they pushed Fantasia and continually downgraded Jasmine's performance

I'll agree on them sabotaging Diana... but Jasmine was not "Idol" caliber. Only the Hawaiian vote kept her afloat that long.

773 posted on 03/14/2007 12:06:19 PM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: The above post may contain sarcasm... if unsure, please remember to use all precautions)
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To: Apple Blossom
The Diva's Dozen

This isn't the one I'm looking for but it does mention the word mishap. I'm still looking for the other article since it printed the lyrics that she missed.

Stephanie Edwards does “Love Hangover”. My readers know that I really like Stephanie and she’s my underdog candidate. Unfortunately I’ve never cared for this song and although Stephanie gives it her usual everything, it’s the most forgettable performance we’ve heard from Stephanie yet. As always she looks great and performs well, although I noticed a wee little slip on the words. Stephanie may be in some danger tonight, unless America agrees that the guys are as a group not as talented as the girls as a group.

774 posted on 03/14/2007 12:09:46 PM PDT by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: kevkrom
I'll agree on them sabotaging Diana... but Jasmine was not "Idol" caliber. Only the Hawaiian vote kept her afloat that long.

Agree 100%. Jasmine lasted several weeks longer than she should have. Diana was robbed.

775 posted on 03/14/2007 12:17:08 PM PDT by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: BamaDi
I'll bet this year loses alot of viewers....

Yup! Buncha boring wannabe's this year. The only ones I give a rat's patootie about are Melinda and Lakisha. But if AI had to have a crappy year, it works out well for me personally that this is it, since I'll probably miss seeing a number of shows due to the babie being born. Back in the fall, before AI got started, I was a little upset about missing some of the shows -- but now I know I won't care! LOL!

776 posted on 03/14/2007 12:18:26 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Apple Blossom
They Keep Hangin' On

By Michael Slezak

This season of American Idol is not a two-way race.

Maybe it should be, but it's not.

Because while American Idol is, at its heart, a talent competition, it's also a television show. And its producers (and, yes, its audience) know deep down that a 12-week diva-off between Melinda Doolittle and LaKisha Jones wouldn't really make for good television. Tuneful, yes. Soulful, definitely. Compelling and suspenseful, well, not so much.

And so while LaKisha and Melinda are, as Simon declared tonight, performing at a completely different level than their ten competitors, there are still four other singers who could deny the front-running duo their predicted places in the finals. In no particular order, the major threats to Idol's New Diva Order are:

The One the Producers and Judges Are Pimping For those of you who've missed the last three weeks of Idol, that'd be Jordin Sparks. Now don't get me wrong: Jordin is the human equivalent of Alka-Seltzer, bringing a healing dose of effervescent goodness to the competition every time the camera lands on her. Guest coach Diana Ross (who nailed each singer's strengths and weaknesses in what appeared to be a matter of minutes) summed it up when she described the ''glitter, the shine'' in the 17-year-old's eyes. And Jordin's a pretty darn good vocalist too, as she proved tonight on the tricky (albeit treacly) ballad ''If We Hold On Together.'' What's bugging me, though, is that for the third straight week, the judges failed to call out Jordin for losing control of her massive instrument; the bridge tonight was chock full o' notes — flat ones! — and the closing seconds flopped harder than Ryan Seacrest and Simon Cowell's intensely inappropriate ''I know you're gay, but what am I?'' banter. Perhaps even more troubling, given the choice of seemingly hundreds of Miss Ross's hits, Jordin settled on an obscure, milquetoast cut off the soundtrack of The Land Before Time. How come the judges didn't question her song choice, especially when they were so tough on...

The One Who's Not Getting the Respect That She's Entitled To If Jordin's getting mad props for having so much stage presence at the tender age of 17, shouldn't 19-year-old Stephanie Edwards get a little of the same, especially after delivering ''Love Hangover'' with a slow and sultry self-assurance that, in my book anyway, ranked behind only LaKisha tonight? Sure, Stephanie may not have the Lemon Pledged polish of Melinda, or the High School Musical sparkle of Jordin, but every week, she takes the stage, rips into her number, and makes me believe that she's actually here to win this thing. (She did appear to miss the line ''If there's a remedy, I'll run from it,'' but she covered it beautifully.) And while there was truth in Simon's criticism that Stephanie's failure to dive into the song's awesome, disco-fied second half made her performance something of a tease, it also gave her the kind of originality she's been previously condemned for lacking. Girlfriend just can't win! She wasn't alone, though, as tonight, neither could...

The Man With a Plan Ah, Blake Lewis. Not the strongest singer in Idol history, not with the way he clips notes that he's smart enough to know aren't gonna fly. And maybe not the most likable, either, with the tiny hint of arrogance that flashes across his face during the judges' critiques. But while Randy and Simon criticized his beat-heavy interpretation of ''You Keep Me Hangin' On,'' I actually agreed with Paula that Blake could release it to radio tomorrow and have a hit. A minor one, but still...And what's more, how boring would tonight's episode have been without the snazzily dressed, spiky-haired beat boxer? I wish all 12 contestants had the confidence and the vision to aim for something beyond karaoke, which is why I couldn't completely hate the botched attempt at originality by...

The Man Who Needs to Get His Groove Back Lucid, constructive (!) Paula said it best: Chris Sligh is trying ''ultra hard to be ultra hip and cool'' — and it's ultra not working. If this were an ice-skating competition, I'd have given the mop-topped ham some pretty good scores for ''artistic impression'' but hit him hard in the ''technical merit'' department. Yet I thought the judges got it wrong, too: It wasn't the Coldplay-lite arrangement that killed his version of ''Endless Love'' but the fact that Chris sounded strained and out-of-breath right from the opening notes. Which was more evidence backing my nagging theory about Chris S.: When you take away the unusual look and the snarky jokes, he might not be a particularly skillful singer. But I think he's one of the six true contenders of season 6.

The remaining half dozen, well, I hate to say it, but there ain't no valley low enough for me to indicate their long-term chances in the competition, starting with...

The Totally Naked Emperor A lot of folks I know think Chris Richardson, with his husky-dog eyes and close-cropped hair, is the perfect, accessible sex symbol — a Justin Timberlake who's battled (and beaten) the bulge. They've also called him the leader of the pack on the men's side this year. Me? I haven't gotten the guy's appeal, not at all. But at the behest of a few friends, and encouraged by his choice of one of my all-time favorite songs, ''The Boss'' (which I listened to like 23 times today in an effort to will one of the Idol contestants to cover it), I really, really tried to keep an open mind tonight. Then dude opened his mouth, and out came that dull, reedy, nasal blade of a voice, hacking and killing every beloved note of a classic disco-era hit. As Paula and Randy started heaping on the praise, I considered pausing my DVR, grabbing a Q-tip, and trying again. But Simon (thank you!) was the needle of reason, scratching across their delusional record, arguing that without Chris' looks and personality, his run-filled, unmelodic performance was ''dreadful,'' the kind that would make you switch the radio ''instantly.'' So maybe I'm not crazy (or tone-deaf) after all. But, America, if you must latch on to a doomed contestant, why not go for...

The Not Quite Dynamic (But Prone to Shouting) Duo Gina Glocksen and Phil Stacey are the classic Idol midpack players, trying desperately to squeeze their way into the top six, while occasionally screaming at the top of their lungs. They're triers — and who doesn't like triers? Gina's ''Love Child'' was decent, although considering that Idol's season-3 champ charted with a single called ''Baby Mama,'' Gina might as well have performed the 1968 hit in Latin, no? Phil, meanwhile, showed vast improvement with a rousing cover of the not-terribly-exciting ''I'm Gonna Make You Love Me.'' That Diana Ross pep talk appeared to have boosted his confidence and stage presence. If there's any justice, he will continue to get better, and outlast (at the very least)...

The Troika of Torture Somewhere out there, A.J. Tabaldo, Sabrina Sloan, Nicholas Pedro, Tami Gosnell, Rachel Zevita, Sean Michel, and a couple dozen other talented Idol wannabes are sitting on their living-room couches and wondering how Brandon Rogers, Haley Scarnato, and Sanjaya Malakar managed to get this far into the competition. In honor of Brandon forgetting the words to the two-note sleeping pill of a song that is ''You Can't Hurry Love,'' I'm going to forget to say anything more about him other than ''Good luck booking backup gigs after that debacle, dude!'' He is so going home on Wednesday!

Haley and Sanjaya (and his hair), I suspect, will be around to terrorize us next week. Miss Ross may think ''Sanjaya is love,'' but I'd use a different noun to describe him. Unease? Discomfiture? Mortification? Shame spiral? Take your pick! His rendition of ''Ain't No Mountain High Enough'' was like a child's gasp wrapped in a kitten's cough — only with a disconcerting flip of permed hair at the end. Really, I'm running out of words to describe how painful Sanjaya's performances have become. If he survives Wednesday's eliminations, I want everyone reading this column to lean out the window Thursday morning and yell, ''Who are you and why are you voting for him?''

Haley, well, I know why she's getting public support. She's pretty, the judges are mean to her, and sometimes it makes her get a little teary eyed. It can't be for her meek performance of the gorgeous ballad ''Missing You,'' which Haley started so breathily I worried she'd caught a case of the whispers from Sanjaya. By the time she forgot her words on the bridge, mumbled some atonal plea, and ended her performance by dropping her arm in defeat, I was waiting for Simon to drag her off stage with a hook. But instead, he declared, ''I didn't think it was that bad.'' Which, translated, means, ''I am trying to be nice so you don't get sympathy votes.'' Too late, I fear!

But at least Haley's not threatening anybody for the top two spots. I mean, LaKisha's ''God Bless the Child'' was the kind of awesomely restrained vocal that every screaming pop and R&B diva on the charts today should be forced to watch and take notes on. Better still, this magnificently low-key, humble everywoman has yet to hit one solitary sour note in four live performances this season. Then again, you could heap the same praise on Melinda, whose misty-eyed response to the live-audience love seemed really genuine to me tonight, too. I'm going to admit I really did not care for her choice of the rambling ballad ''Home,'' and I thought she started her performance a little tentatively, but that's only because, at this point in the competition, I hold LaKisha and Melinda to a higher standard. And who knows? Maybe, just maybe, Kiki and Mindy Doo will actually surprise (and delight) me and take this all the way into May in a good old-fashioned diva-off. There are worse ways the season could play out, no?

777 posted on 03/14/2007 12:39:35 PM PDT by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: Ciexyz; silent_jonny
Kudos to you for your admirable artwork!

I agree! It is absolutely stunning. You have a gift silent_jonny.

I missed the show too. Had to watch The Marine (again) before it was past due. But from what I hear I don't think we missed much. Diana Ross. Bleh.

778 posted on 03/14/2007 1:05:25 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (...what I was born to do, don't have to think it through.....)
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To: Netizen

She was robbed. It's almost laughable.


779 posted on 03/14/2007 1:07:53 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (...what I was born to do, don't have to think it through.....)
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To: Netizen

Oh my gosh. I still suffer from having seen some of those. Almost as bad as the trauma of that Dennis Hopper movie where he "walked out in front of the camera" in all his dubious glory. I have dennishopperphobia now as a result.


780 posted on 03/14/2007 1:13:21 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (...what I was born to do, don't have to think it through.....)
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