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To: zimdog
"You claim that the existence of 21,000 Muslim troops in the SS proves that Muslims = Nazis, but you find it absurd when I that same "logic" is applied to the millions of Christian troops in the German army."
In the first place "army" did not equate to "SS".
In the second; This entire thread addresses Croatia/Albania/Serbia and NOT all of Europe and Russia where those millions of Germans, mostly not Nazis, were assigned. The 13th SS was never intended to serve outside of its own neighborhood and probably would not have done so.

" Nevermind that most Muslims opposed the Nazis."
That assertion is not worth addressing because it just ain't true.

" Nevermind the, what was it again, 180,000 West African Muslim troops who enlisted to fight the Nazis."
The French Legion and a great many African troops did fight for DeGaulle. Just where do you find any other likely muslims enlisting in great numbers other than those in service to Jordan (and later engaged against israel) or some other pre-existing British construct?

More than 2000 dead might reflect anything from attrition over a fairly long period, to an intense battle, to a relative massacare. Such a number would not fall far outside any bell curve in any war. The massacare you and the media refer to is:
Not only not proven but disproven.
Still used continualy as justification and still inflated to epic numbers which, again, have been disproven.
Even so "A Massacare" does not prove "Ethnic Cleansing". Ethnic cleansing before Clinton was characterized by rampant immigration from Albania and into Kosovo, creating a muslim majority in what Serbs considered their heartland. Since Clinton, ethnic cleansing has been blatant, widespread, and entirely muslim on Christian/Albanian on Serb.

Finally, are you a Monty Python fan?
Your debate style contributed to one of my favorite Python sketches...

112 posted on 02/16/2007 1:32:20 PM PST by norton
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To: norton
In the first place "army" did not equate to "SS".

Agreed. But "SS" does not equate to "Nazi." The Wehrmacht as a whole fought for Hitler.

In the second; This entire thread addresses Croatia/Albania/Serbia and NOT all of Europe and Russia where those millions of Germans, mostly not Nazis, were assigned. The 13th SS was never intended to serve outside of its own neighborhood and probably would not have done so.

Agreed. Which is why all this "Teh Muslim = Teh Nazi" is ridiculous.

The massacare you and the media refer to is: Not only not proven but disproven.

I have yet to see any convincing "disproof" beyond a revision of the numbers killed and a slew of partisan websites excusing the murder of Muslims because, y'know, Muslims were killing people too. Talk about moral equivalency. The French Legion and a great many African troops did fight for DeGaulle. Just where do you find any other likely muslims enlisting in great numbers other than those in service to Jordan (and later engaged against israel) or some other pre-existing British construct?

France's North African troops, and the Soviet army.

113 posted on 02/16/2007 1:39:19 PM PST by zimdog
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