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To: Spiff

One has every right to be suspicious of a table proporting to represent Giuliani's positions on issues put together by someone who opposes Giuliani's likely candidacy, when that table provides no footnotes or references to sources. It smacks of the worst of demogogic politics.


127 posted on 01/29/2007 2:58:22 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: My2Cents
One has every right to be suspicious of a table proporting to represent Giuliani's positions on issues put together by someone who opposes Giuliani's likely candidacy, when that table provides no footnotes or references to sources. It smacks of the worst of demogogic politics.

The table is true. But let's put that aside for a moment.

What would you do if I proved to you that each and every item in that table was true? What if we agreed to disagree on 1 or maybe 2 items. Would it change YOUR mind? No. You'd find some other reason to excuse Giuliani's liberal, anti-platform views or to rationalize why Rudy has to be elected anyway.

If you really had an open mind and would accept the consequences of discovering Giuliani's opposition to the Party Platform on nearly every issue, then you'd do your own homework and discover what I discovered and spent the time to make a table to demonstrate. But that's not what you'll do. You just want to pretend that it can't be true so that you can ignore it. But all the wishing in the world won't change the reality of Giuliani's anti-Republican views, statements, positions, and record as Mayor.

159 posted on 01/29/2007 3:13:16 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: My2Cents

I've asked for sources before regarding this matter too and unsurprisingly, they are never given.

What's sort of creepy is that the so-called perfect conservatives on Free Republic must be farther to the right than ubber social conservative Pat Robertson.

Pat Robertson thinks Rudy would make a good president.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/5/1/102522.shtml


211 posted on 01/29/2007 3:53:07 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: My2Cents
So...

WHAT on Spiff's table do you dispute?

Even RINO-rudy isn't disputing most of his liberal positions, he is merely ignoring the questions and trying to highlight the pitifully FEW conservative positions he does have.

1,241 posted on 01/30/2007 3:24:09 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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