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To: CottShop; King Prout
"Why is not every ge******* and every ******* *** *** such *******? ******* assuredly does not ***** ****** ****** ******* ***** **** ******; and this is *** ***** ****** **** ****** ****** ****** ******* *** ****** ***** the theory.1"

So, may I assume that the quote of your little schnitzeljagd was:

why is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest objection which can be urged against my theory.

Amusingly, that's a typical example of quote-mining:

why is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? is taken from Chapter 6 of the "Origin of species" while Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain, and this perhaps is the greatest objection which can be urged against my theory. comes form Chapter 9 of the same book.

To built of a quote this way should be taken as a sign of dishonesty - I presume, not of your side, but of Don Patton, the manufactured that quote (Or do you claim that you distorted Darwin yourself?)

Darwin often states some questions at the beginning of a chapter, just to answer them in the very chapter...

559 posted on 01/18/2007 2:58:10 AM PST by si tacuissem (.. lurker mansissem)
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To: si tacuissem

some folks are as contentedly ignorant of the conventions of dialectic and catechism as they are of logic, grammar, syntax, and denotative definitions.


560 posted on 01/18/2007 4:42:11 AM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: si tacuissem

lol 'quote mining' - I love it- you folks do NOTHING but read the links given- ignore the science that is present and systematically pull just the Christian related sentances and use them as some sort of wand to wave and dismiss the facts that are presented- please- do accuse me of 'quote mining' - it's amusing.

Yes, that's the quote- although it seems you've put the two together in an attempt to accuse someone of being dishonest? And you've either misquoted Darwin, or copied someone else's misquote- He didn't just say it was 'the greatest' objection, he also stated it was serious object, and rightfully so ""Why then is not every geological formation full of such intermediate links. Geology assuredly does not reveal any finely graduated organic change, and this is the most obvious and serious objection that can be urged against the theory".
Darwin answered the serious lack of transitionals later in the chapter? That's a new one to me.


572 posted on 01/18/2007 9:37:35 AM PST by CottShop
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To: si tacuissem

I see you are a talkorigins devotee- I also note that they go to great lengths trying to do 'damage control' by explaining away all the objections Darwin had to his own theory- Saying things like 'presumably' or 'Darwin meant htis because____ fill in the blank" . They're attempting to vilify those who use Darwin's own quotes by doing some quote mining of their own. "Darwin must have meant htis because earlier he said so and so" (although I find their links to be quite a stretch at times.


574 posted on 01/18/2007 10:13:08 AM PST by CottShop
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