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I am a Catholic that was raised and taught by intelligent and scientifically savvy priests. Show me where the Catholic church teaches the creationist nonsense.

Noah's ark was taught as a story, a fable, designed to teach the ignorant masses of the day.

As for the Kerry and Kennedy blarm, give it a rest. I know several Catholic priests that know science, teach evolution and are not so weak in faith that they allow their dogma to refuse science.

The great thing about Catholicism is its depth...the long, long history of involvement with Christianity. As I said in a couple of other messages, I believe the core message of Christianity is valid, but the physical manifestations of faith are not holy, viz: the Bible, images, etc. Those things are very worthwhile...just not holy. That said, I am a big fan of EWTN, the Catholic television network and Mother Angelica.

"I know several Catholic priests that know science, teach evolution and are not so weak in faith that they allow their dogma to refuse science."

Could you supply me names please of these priests? And what archdiocese they belong to so I can report them to the Vatican? If they are teaching evolution they are as much a priest as Greeley is.

If you are so "sure" in your evolution/psuedo Catholic faith then you will surely provide me with their names, because after all they are speaking the word of the Vatican and are in the right, and by me reporting them to higher authorities, I would be doing them a service. Correct?

I'll take their names please.

BTW, here is a good read for you and your Greely-like priests. I think they may need a workshop or two from their bishop. In any case the stance of the Catholic Church is still that God created Heaven and Earth. That is not a fable to my church, the Catholic Church of Rome, it is a tenet and an anchor to our beliefs. I am amazed that you preach differently and call yourself a Catholic and claim to know Catholic scholars (teachers, priest, etc) who are in disagreement with that basic tenement.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04470a.htm

You are neither a Catholic as you claim to be, nor is it likely that you know any priests who teach that we were evolved from a big bang, carbon electric emulsification that created single cell organisms.

The Catholic Church does not teach, nor does it ordain priests who teach that we have evolved from single cell creatures, apes, monkeys, or the like.

Your rogue teachers may have, but it is more likely you went to some pseudo church, without direct advocate from the Vatican, and the teachers there (self collared or whatnot) may have taught you whatever their hippie upbringing lent them to.

All Catholics sin, and all Catholics are imperfect, but they must come to the realization and repentance of such acts. I'm sure, if as you state, your Catholic professors are so sure in their faith that they will not be squeamish about being reported for their infraction upon the Church. After all, confession, and atonement are also centrifugal to our teachings.

"Show me where the Catholic church teaches the creationist nonsense. "

If ever any of your arguments are to be taken seriously, CS, you need to understand one very simple fact: the Catholic Church believes in Creationism.

It is an a priori fact. Without Creationism, there IS NO Catholic Church. Jeez.

You have just come right out and said that the Pope, all clergy, and the masses of faithful, are all atheists. Oh, except for a few dumb Catholics, scattered here and there.