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To: Golden Eagle
Copyright infringement can obviously be criminal, if the value estimated to be lost reaches certain levels

That's for distribution of copyrighted works of a value in excess of the statutory amount. You're barking up the wrong legal tree here, as there is no evidence they distributed even one copy of OS X. The only way you can get close to criminality is by looking to a different aspect of copyright law, and you haven't provided evidence that could even bring that into relevance in this case.

When are you going to get it through your skull that I'm not defending hackers, but debating points of law? Look at my history, I love to debate law. You called them criminal, and I objected to that as a matter of law, not as a matter of defending anyone -- besides, the huge civil penalties possible under copyright law can make one wish he could have just gotten some time in jail instead.

347 posted on 01/10/2007 12:42:56 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
When are you going to get it through your skull that I'm not defending hackers, but debating points of law?

Another obvious lie, endlessly looking for legal loopholes for criminal Russian hackers is definitely defending them. Having your hell bound buddy FLAMING DEATH post more obvious lies isn't helping you either, LOL.

350 posted on 01/10/2007 2:58:21 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat
That's for distribution of copyrighted works of a value in excess of the statutory amount. You're barking up the wrong legal tree here, as there is no evidence they distributed even one copy of OS X. The only way you can get close to criminality is by looking to a different aspect of copyright law, and you haven't provided evidence that could even bring that into relevance in this case.

Another lie, of course, you obviously can't even post without creating more and more lies in your defense of criminals. You can easily be criminally prosecuted for cracking software, even if you don't distribute anything other than the crack itself. Here's a case against Russian hackers from 2002, where criminal charges were filed against Russian hackers, simply for cracking the password mechanism:

A federal judge yesterday denied Russian software company Elcomsoft's request to dismiss charges against it for breaching the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Elcomsoft is the company standing behind programmer Dmitry Sklyarov who is accused of violating the law by developing a program capable of circumventing copyright restrictions on Adobe's eBook software. Judge Ronald Whyte's ruling means that Elcomsoft must face criminal charges on the ground that the DMCA's ban on copyright circumvention tools is constitutional, even if the circumvention tools themselves are used for legal purposes.

These are the kinds of scumbags you defend, with lies you tried to perpetrate for months, which you have now admitted to and claim were "fun". That makes you equal if not even lower than the Russian scumbags, of course, especially since you still are trying to defend them now with more lies.

352 posted on 01/10/2007 3:33:59 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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