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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Guess what?

The government HAS NO RIGHT to legislate what goes on in the bedrooms.

Sorry. I know it's not authoritarian enough for you.

I'm not a libertarian, although personal liberty is and should be one of our most basic rights.

The Genie is out of the bottle whether you like it or not.
707 posted on 12/17/2006 9:18:55 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio
The government HAS NO RIGHT to legislate what goes on in the bedrooms.

Does a sovereign American citizen have the right to be disgusted by homosexuality? Does he have the right to protect his children from being taught that the homosexual lifestyle is a positive good? Does he have the right to, through the legislative process, enforce the idea that marriage is to be solely between one man and one woman?

710 posted on 12/17/2006 9:37:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: MikefromOhio; Sunsong; EternalVigilance
The government HAS NO RIGHT to legislate what goes on in the bedrooms.

Such an absolutist assertion I believe to run counter to the principles of the most competent systems for ensuring liberty in our civilization. I am thinking more Burke and de Tocqueville and I believe your assertion is ala the flawed John Stuart Mill.

Don't get me wrong. I would definitely advocate against, and vote against, in my state, such things as sodomy laws. And if I found myself at the wrong end of a ridiculous law restricting an activity vital to my existence, I would be justifiably angry and the second amendment would be in my thinking.

But it is impossible to eradicate moral judgements from law. Certain attempts to do that impossible thing fuel judicial activism which threatens liberty. I call the fight to prevent rule by judges a generational imperative.

722 posted on 12/17/2006 10:24:49 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: MikefromOhio; The Ghost of FReepers Past; EternalVigilance; Sunsong; KDD; NutCrackerBoy; ...
The government HAS NO RIGHT to legislate what goes on in the bedrooms.

Marriage is a PUBLIC act that requires a statutory license... and a practice of religious rite...

No man has the right to become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion. We do have the right to regulate practice, not belief...

Some of these liberal-tarians forget, it is THEY who advocate “separation of church and state.” Let me cram it right back down their throats...

It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made “separation of church and state” a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices.

Now, it ain't so palatable to them, is it? They are the ones here bashing the religious folks, now they want to claim some mercurial, ever changing definition of freedom of religion? I'm not going to live in their hell...

If I cannot yell “fire” in a crowded theater, I don't think someone should be able to light one with a U.S. flag and call it “free speech.”

Of course, a lot of these traitors to the United States would also whine if we wanted an Amendment to ban homosexual marriage or flag burning, wouldn't they?

There are doctrinaire, myopic cultural Marxists whose only purpose here on FreeRepublic is their polemic need to do anything contrary to the Christians. You will find most of them on the homosexual issue threads, the evolution threads, drug threads, genetic engineering threads or any other issue involving a perversion of, or attack on the Judaic book of Genesis.

Feminazi and Gaystapo are very close to the reality of the situation.

Some of the Bozos out there can't get past that word “God,” so they would just piss the entire country away and join the enemies of America; all because they have this polemic need to bash the Christians and do everything in contravention to them. I say screw them and the filthy practices they want to live by. My children are not going to inherit their squalor if I can help it.

Of course, what a lot of the leftists and misguided, myopic liberal-tarians don't want to admit is that Christianity (and they do hate Christians) is just their politically correct proxy for their war against what is written in the book of Genesis (which is a Jewish doctrine). This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with, especially if you consider their eugenic breeding programs that is no different than this fetal stem cell debate.

They will jump up and down and snivel about the Ten Commandments and Christians; but the reminders that Moses was not a Christian, that Genesis, Exodus, and Deuteronomy are Jewish literature really sticks in their craw.

There are actually cultural Marxist trolls here on FreeRepublic who cloak themselves in liberal-tarianism and attack anything related to Genesis...

I could give you quite a list of their user names. They can be found a lot on the evolution, drug, genetic engineering threads, and have been bleeding over into the marriage issue threads. Their only purpose is to wage a psychological warfare on conservatives.

735 posted on 12/18/2006 2:18:04 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: MikefromOhio; The Ghost of FReepers Past; EternalVigilance; Sunsong; KDD; NutCrackerBoy; ...
The government HAS NO RIGHT to legislate what goes on in the bedrooms.

Marriage is a PUBLIC act that requires a statutory license... and a practice of religious rite...

No man has the right to become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion. We do have the right to regulate practice, not belief...

Some of these liberal-tarians forget, it is THEY who advocate “separation of church and state.” Let me cram it right back down their throats...

It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made “separation of church and state” a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices.

Now, it ain't so palatable to them, is it? They are the ones here bashing the religious folks, now they want to claim some mercurial, ever changing definition of freedom of religion? I'm not going to live in their hell...

If I cannot yell “fire” in a crowded theater, I don't think someone should be able to light one with a U.S. flag and call it “free speech.”

Of course, a lot of these traitors to the United States would also whine if we wanted an Amendment to ban homosexual marriage or flag burning, wouldn't they?

There are doctrinaire, myopic cultural Marxists whose only purpose here on FreeRepublic is their polemic need to do anything contrary to the Christians. You will find most of them on the homosexual issue threads, the evolution threads, drug threads, genetic engineering threads or any other issue involving a perversion of, or attack on the Judaic book of Genesis.

Feminazi and Gaystapo are very close to the reality of the situation.

Some of the Bozos out there can't get past that word “God,” so they would just piss the entire country away and join the enemies of America; all because they have this polemic need to bash the Christians and do everything in contravention to them. I say screw them and the filthy practices they want to live by. My children are not going to inherit their squalor if I can help it.

Of course, what a lot of the leftists and misguided, myopic liberal-tarians don't want to admit is that Christianity (and they do hate Christians) is just their politically correct proxy for their war against what is written in the book of Genesis (which is a Jewish doctrine). This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with, especially if you consider their eugenic breeding programs that is no different than this fetal stem cell debate.

They will jump up and down and snivel about the Ten Commandments and Christians; but the reminders that Moses was not a Christian, that Genesis, Exodus, and Deuteronomy are Jewish literature really sticks in their craw.

There are actually cultural Marxist trolls here on FreeRepublic who cloak themselves in liberal-tarianism and attack anything related to Genesis...

I could give you quite a list of their user names. They can be found a lot on the evolution, drug, genetic engineering threads, and have been bleeding over into the marriage issue threads. Their only purpose is to wage a psychological warfare on conservatives.

736 posted on 12/18/2006 2:18:13 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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