[Shamrock-DW]

You vote against McCain or Guiliani, you get Hellary, Breck Girl, or Obama/Osama.

Bottom line, end of discussion.

Not necessarily so....I seem to remember "W" came out of left field and was pushed on us with a bum's rush.  He won.

Now...if the neocons and the paleocons can get together there might be a winnable candidate....
 

[jeltz25]

W didn't come out of left field. He was the annointed one years in advance. He was Bush's son. He had the money. He was no outsider or surprise candidate.