[xsmommy]

Is she selfish for doing this? Yes, I believe so, and I might add that she is also wrong, but under such circumstances – being that Mary is a lesbian – marrying a man to have a child wouldn't have changed the view point of the child. As he/she got older, he/she would've realized that his/her mother didn't love nor even like his father, and that she preferred women, resulting in a child's distorted sense of traditional family values.

I absolutely agree, however, the answer is to NOT HAVE A CHILD. just because you are a woman and capable of childbearing doesn't mean that it is ESSENTIAL that you give birth. that is where the selfishness comes in, in this or any case like it, the absolute need to bear a child, just because i can. it can't possibly be to experience the joy of making a child with her partner, because that isn't biologically possible. there is no way to produce a child that is a product of a lesbian relationship. so truly it is all about her and her need to have a child just because she wants to, and can. and i disagree that it is any sense of being better than someone else that has people up in arms on this thread. like i said, i have kids and i talk to them about our culture and what is right and what is wrong. there are far too many WRONG things that need to be explained. my 18 year old daughter was profoundly disappointed to hear this news.

[tuffydoodle]

I'm still slowly reading through this thread (sorry I missed it when it was active) but I haven't seen this point made: when saying that what consenting adults do in the bedroom is nobodys business, consider the early 1980's. The bathhouses were in full swing, it was "consenting adults" using them and they were saying it was nobodys business. Then along comes AIDS, spread profusely among gays in the bathhouses. Suddenly, it becomes everyone's business. Immoral behavior affects everyone, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually, we all pay for it. Mary Cheney having a baby out of wedlock is miniscule piece of the puzzle, but a piece nonetheless.

[highball]

just because you are a woman and capable of childbearing doesn't mean that it is ESSENTIAL that you give birth. that is where the selfishness comes in, in this or any case like it, the absolute need to bear a child, just because i can. it can't possibly be to experience the joy of making a child with her partner, because that isn't biologically possible.

Faulty logic.

So a couple who can't have kids, their parenting experience is somehow lessened by adopting?

They can't "experience the joy of making a child with her partner", after all.