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To: Indy Pendance

You are disillusioned by comments posted on FR lately; I am disillusioned by Bush lately. I signed on in 2004 amidst the height of election fever. The MemoGate story is what brought my attention here. I believed in Bush, and bought into the public image he projected--a strong, decisive leader with the will to do what's right.

That veil is torn. Bush has no idea what he's doing, and is controlled by other politicians and events. He has been coasting for a while, and now after the elections he finds himself in a free-fall. People wanted to support him after 9-11 and for a time that helped mask his flaws. The 9-11 Patriotism Effect is gone, and his bungling on delivering anything he promised in the Campaign 2004 has shown him to be weak.

You say I don't know how government works. Maybe not, but neither does Bush. He just repeats the same tired slogans while he becomes more and more isolated and irrelevant.

I had been posting mostly on general/sports threads for a while now, after I had seen the real Bush. I didn't want to go on political threads and play pretend, saying the usual lines of "rope-a-dope," "don't play Poker with W!," etc. I don't believe it and I'm sure a lot of others don't anymore either. After the elections exposed what Bush had done to the GOP, I felt I could stop pretending and start posting what I believed to be true. Others have come to the same conclusion.

You and others still fervently support Bush. That's fine, I hope he is equal to the abilities you attribute to him. I hope he can still make his Presidency a success. Right now I have to say the chances of that are pretty slim, but you never know.

However, calling everyone a Troll who does not suscribe to your rosy worldview is not a good idea. If everyone who doesn't think Bush is a Top 5 President were to be banned, this place would be quite lame. There's only so many times one can read threads about how "Bush is sandbagging the Demoncrats, he's tricking the Treasonous Media and Iraq will be a great Ally in the WOT."


82 posted on 12/06/2006 3:09:42 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Euphorion Falls)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
Did I ever say I supported Bush? My comments are directed at the MSM and their reporting of this administration. If this would be a dem president, it would be different, and all peaches and cream, and you'd be falling in line with that public opinion. Just let yourself be free, and learn facts, once you are unencumbered by media bias, you'll see the real picture.
84 posted on 12/06/2006 3:14:18 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Cyclopean Squid

It is already quite a bit lamer than it used to be. A lot of very interesting posters have been lost and the level of discourse is generally at "I don't like what I think you said so you must be a troll" or "George Bush is a nice guy and better then Clinton so what is your problem". Pathetic, really.

But there still is some very good information to be gleaned from this site so it's worth a look now and then. And every once in a while I'll throw my 2 cents in and be told "We don't need your f***ing vote anyway".


101 posted on 12/06/2006 3:35:05 PM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: Cyclopean Squid

Hear, hear!


135 posted on 12/06/2006 4:33:58 PM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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