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W'S DRIFT TO IMPOTENCE
N Y Post ^ | December 6, 2006 | JOHN O'SULLIVAN

Posted on 12/06/2006 2:06:31 PM PST by Sabramerican

JOHN Bolton's resignation as the American ambassador to the United Nations makes it official: The Bush administration is now drifting idly toward a mixture of centrism and impotence.

In less than a month, two of President Bush's stronger and more independent aides - Donald Rumsfeld and Bolton - have been dispatched. Rumsfeld's designated successor, former CIA head Robert Gates, is a leading member of the Beltway's permanent bureaucracy.

The administration seems to be waiting for the Baker-Hamilton commission of old Washington hands to dictate U.S. policy on Iraq. Leaks from the commission suggest it will recommend a gradual U.S. withdrawal camouflaged by negotiations with Iran and Syria over a new Mideast grand bargain.

All of this feeds an exaggerated defeatism in the United States over Iraq.

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Rumsfeld's abrupt firing was an act of flagrant disloyalty to a loyal subordinate. The defense secretary had made his share of mistakes - notably, his failure to crush looting immediately after the fall of Baghdad - but he had followed the president's policy faithfully.

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We don't know for certain the reasons for Bolton's departure: Either the White House wasn't prepared to fight for him, or he was no longer prepared to lend his voice to the diplomatic charade over Iran and North Korea. Either way, his departure demonstrates timidity on the administration's part. The net result will be that Bush has one less loyal subordinate in the shrinking ranks of his own administration.

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To: STARWISE

LOL...I notice this has been put in the Smokey Backroom..

I don't even have to read the thread to know why that happened.

I saw the headline of this thread yesterday, and didn't even read it---because the premise of the headline is outrageous.

Impotent...HA!!!!

These people, the dems, the media do NOT know what is going on behind the scenes, or in President Bush's head....or in Rummy's for that matter.


561 posted on 12/07/2006 7:07:53 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: beckett
He believed those reasons dovetailed nicely with the national interest. He was wrong.

I believe your anti-Bush rhetoric dovetails nicely with the leftist media. And I am right.

I could read your exact words in Time Magazine. But I'd have to buy it.

Unfortunately, you force me to read your leftist tripe because you post it on a conservative forum.

It's still leftist tripe. It was before the war, and it is now.

562 posted on 12/07/2006 7:12:46 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Txsleuth

I believe that. What better regard could you have for someone than to relieve them of the agony of continuous interrogation, persecution and attack? How could he have ever done his job, complying with constant document requests and hearings from the bloodthirsty Rats? If W had insisted, you know Rummy would have stayed, purely from the core of his own high character and out of his deep respect and honor for his President, but there was no denying the reality of the changing groundgame.

I'm still devastated at his leaving.


563 posted on 12/07/2006 7:22:48 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: ohioWfan; Mo1; Peach; Txsleuth

564 posted on 12/07/2006 7:25:54 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: dennisw
Also, dennis, when I say I thought "the WMD argument was just the public justification for a private strategy composed of elements that were deemed unfit for public airing," I hoped the private strategy included some serious and well thought out endgame strategy for the Israelis. I hoped GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al., were putting our kids in harm's way because they had a plan for how that sacrifice could lead directly to long term peace in the region.

How silly of me. There was no plan. GWB is a doer, not a planner.

565 posted on 12/07/2006 7:30:12 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Peach

"To: ARealMothersSonForever; ohioWfan; Texasforever; onyx; Peach
Absolutely no mention of ANYBODY by name.
But you're leaving out the part where Sawdring PINGED me to the post you were replying to.

That's how I knew you were talking about me.

The really interesting thing you're exposed -- and I'm sure you didn't realize you did it -- is that you're STALKING me.

You replied to Sawdring and also added uncbob to the ping; now uncbob wasn't on this thread, BUT........within minutes of answering Sawdring, I had told uncbob to get off the Daily Dose thread.

You've been exposed as a stalker...........and by a DESPERATE HOUSEWIFE..................duh on you!

You just keep working at it, Butch.


293 posted on 12/06/2006 9:54:59 PM CST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)"

Somebody else pinged you to the thread, while chastizing for the failure to ping others. Sorry that I put everybody in the reply line. It will not happen again.


566 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:23 AM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: STARWISE

I am devastated as well...but, I truly believe that Pres. Bush did it FOR Rummy's sake...NOT because he lost faith in Rummy.


567 posted on 12/07/2006 7:45:47 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: ZULU
Newt Gingrich and his Contract with American gained control of Congress for the first time in genertions for the Republicans - that's quite an accomplishment.

Yes it was, just as the 2000, 2002 and 2004 elections were, as led by the President. But you dismiss those accomplishments to argue that the President failed to maintain and build on the momentum events provided him. Yet Newt's record after his big win, despite his obvious smarts and regardless of the merit of his critics, is not the work of a political genius or great leader.

568 posted on 12/07/2006 7:51:17 AM PST by Dolphy
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To: You Dirty Rats

Baker now "clarifying" the report. He really doesn't think Iran will come to the table, but we'll make the offer and their refusal will show their obstructionism.

I was always a big fan of Baker but with this report I'm beginning to think he's losing it.

Press conference with Bush and Blair up any minute.


569 posted on 12/07/2006 7:57:51 AM PST by GoldwaterChick (Never give in, never give in, never, never, never give in. Winston Churchill Oct. 29, 1941)
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To: Txsleuth

I sure believe that was near the top of his list.


570 posted on 12/07/2006 8:00:13 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: GoldwaterChick
I think you're right GoldwaterChick. But I'm not sure the right term is 'losing it.'

I think it's more like 'lost it.'

571 posted on 12/07/2006 8:00:38 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: AmeriBrit
If I can just jog the conscience of one person and make them see what their poison is doing to this country then opening the wound again is worth it and his sacrifice was not in vain. To be honest, I wish it was possible to grab each one of the cowardly deserters by the shoulders and shake them till some sense returned to their brainwashed brains.

God Bless President Bush,
God Bless our fighting heroes.
God Bless America

Worth repeating over and over and a respectful bump.

572 posted on 12/07/2006 8:01:25 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: primeval patriot

Denial cuts both ways.

No contrition is evident.

Just more cult worship and incredibly, blaming the President, his administration, half the world and the majority of Americans for their predicament.

Amazing.


573 posted on 12/07/2006 8:04:05 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
So we can count on your calling us 'desperate housewives' only behind our backs now?

I've asked you not to ping me to threads that I have not commented on, since I don't give a rip what your ADD brain comes up with here, but if you call me names (especially idiotic ones like 'desperate housewife'.....which reminds me I've GOT to tell my husband about you. He will laugh himself silly).... please engage in the FR courtesy of pinging me to your slander.

Thanks, ever so much, sonny....

574 posted on 12/07/2006 8:04:40 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: OldFriend

Some good observations, OF.


575 posted on 12/07/2006 8:36:26 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: OldFriend

I think Venezuela offered a place for the UN.


576 posted on 12/07/2006 8:36:59 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ohioWfan

You're right, ohioWfan. I had the same feeling when Barry Goldwater said he thought Clinton was a wonderful President. I'll bet you were at the Bush Halloween night rally in Cincinnati--it was phenomenal.


577 posted on 12/07/2006 8:37:58 AM PST by GoldwaterChick (Never give in, never give in, never, never, never give in. Winston Churchill Oct. 29, 1941)
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To: Doofer

Good grief! That's disgusting, but you did say Illinois?


578 posted on 12/07/2006 8:41:55 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: GoldwaterChick
I wasn't at the rally, but the President came right here to our town and did a town meeting. It was awesome!

And I share your disappointment in Goldwater. He needed to retire when he still acted like a conservative.

579 posted on 12/07/2006 8:55:53 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Dog; Mo1; Miss Marple
Rumsfeld's abrupt firing was an act of flagrant disloyalty to a loyal subordinate. The defense secretary had made his share of mistakes - notably, his failure to crush looting immediately after the fall of Baghdad - but he had followed the president's policy faithfully.

This is what has turned me so sour...I hope my sour mood hasn't cost me FRiends....but the way Rummy was pushed out....was finally to much for me to take.

Dog, when I turned-in last night I figured this thread was pretty much over. Imagine my surprise to see still today that, like Frankenstein's creation, "it's alive!" /grin

Don't worry about it, the anger and vituperation will fade, and those of us familiar with your solid, level-headed and balanced perspectives are still here with you.

Your assessment of Rumsfeld's dismissal is correct, but most of those here who have assailed you for it simply didn't get your point. It wasn't the simple fact of his leaving that you were objecting to. It was the poor timing, and the classless, embarrassing, and worst of all, knee-jerk weakness the Administration exhibited by doing it the day after the election.

Even if you agreed with the political arguments that Rumsfeld needed to go, which I don't, or even if it really was his own choice, which is possible, and if so I respect it, announcing it so abruptly the day after the election was perceived by the public and spun by the MSM as a complete capitulation by President Bush.

It was another devastating example of the "tin ear" for the vital media/PR/propaganda components of public policy the Bush Administration has exhibited throughout its tenure. If Rumsfeld really wanted out, or even if he preferred to stay but agreed that the shifting political reality necessitated his leaving, delaying the announcement for a week or two would have made no difference, except that of a public acknowledgement and insistence on granting him a little bit of the dignity and honor in the manner of his leaving which he so richly deserves.

I agree with you. The whole thing could have been handled with class and dignity, and there was absolutely no necessity for the stupidly-timed, disrespectful and classless way it was done.

580 posted on 12/07/2006 8:56:20 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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