[dr luba]

I gotta get off this subject, I can not believe people here call themselves "Conservatives"???????????

You're right, those damned hippies are ruining it for real consevatives like you:

At 85, after a life in politics spanning five decades (he retired from the Senate in 1987), Mr. Conservative has found himself an unlikely new career: as a gay rights activist. While that's not his sole pursuit – he returned to Capitol Hill yesterday to testify in favor of scenic overflights of the Grand Canyon – in recent years he's championed homosexuals serving in the military and has worked locally to stop businesses in Phoenix from hiring on the basis of sexual orientation. This month he signed on as honorary co-chairman of a drive to pass a federal law preventing job discrimination against homosexuals. The effort, dubbed Americans Against Discrimination, is being spearheaded by the Human Rights Campaign Fund, the influential gay lobbying organization.

"The big thing is to make this country, along with every other country in the world with a few exceptions, quit discriminating against people just because they're gay," Barry Goldwater asserts. "You don't have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that's what brings me into it."

Funny thing, there was a time when being a conservative meant keeping the government OUT of our bedrooms and private lives!

[Wormwood]

Funny thing, there was a time when being a conservative meant keeping the government OUT of our bedrooms and private lives!

That was before the base decided that the Bible should be the party platform.

[SeaBiscuit]

"Funny thing, there was a time when being a conservative meant keeping the government OUT of our bedrooms and private lives!"

Yeah, that's what Bill Clinton would've hoped too.

[Howlin]

Funny thing, there was a time when being a conservative meant keeping the government OUT of our bedrooms and private lives!

I fondly remember that time.

That was back when they thought the less government intruded into our lives, the better.

That was back when our side complained about the LIBERALS sticking their collective noses in our business.

Now we have our very own busybodies who wish to cram THEIR views down people's throats.

I can't decide whether it's humorous, hypocritical, or just disgusting.

[petitfour]

Interesting. I didn't know Goldwater did that. I didn't know until recently that Congressman Jim Kolbe had been a page for Goldwater wayyyy back in the 1960s either. Jim Kolbe also served in the military.

[Wallace T.]

You are the one who brought up the red herring of "government OUT of our bedrooms and private lives". You are making the false assumption that since someone opposes sexual perversion and the abuse of the term family, they favor government regulation of this area. If this woman engages in sexual perversion, that is her own private business. However, it is wrong to glorify the perversion or her bearing a child from artificial insemination or some other immoral means as some sort of new standard.

Favoring lower taxes or a strong stand against terrorism is no excuse for glorifying what would and should rightly be condemned.

[highball]

Funny thing, there was a time when being a conservative meant keeping the government OUT of our bedrooms and private lives!

I seem to remember that time.

That was when Republicans were for fiscal responsibility in Washington, right?

;)