Posted on 10/19/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by no dems
Edited on 10/19/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
http://hsc.house.gov/
(Link to Video)
(Tuesday, October 17, 2006) Today, U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul (TX), Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security Subcommittee on Investigations, released a report on border violence in the Southwest. The report examines the alarming rise in the level of criminal cartel activity, including drug and human smuggling, along the Texas-Mexico border and its effects on Federal, State and local law enforcement agencies. The report also looks at what steps are being taken to counter the threat, and the significance of these issues pertaining to the overall security of the United States.
They are certainly sorry excuses for humans. They prey on the elderly here also while their wives and kids shoplift.
Uh, yeah, you would be the expert on that.
I think the judge was a she.
Oh, ok, then she should be disbarred.
NOW you are talking. There is something disproportionate about the sentence handed down. It stinks.
He's in the "system" now, and no one in law enforcement wants to answer for their failures to take him off the street all the fourteen (maybe more) times they had the chance. - He tries to smile in his photographs, and I think it's because his counsel has advised him to try to look friendly so people won't think he's a mean person. Sadly, the smiles are only making people mad. - As I said, I don't mind legal immigrants who try to do decent and abide by the law like the rest of us have to do. I want everybody to have good, good food, good clothing, good housing and a chance to make a decent living doing constructive things in their lives. It is very frustrating how corrupt the Mexican government is; how it lets its people down through extremely corrupt officials and business people who use the poor in that country and cause them to have to leave there to find economic opportunity and a decent lifestyle. I realize an accident can happen to anyone, but getting roaring drunk and driving is no accident - unacceptable for me - and for Garcia or anyone else. We HAVE to expect better things from ourselves, and from our fellow citizens, and from immigrants as well.
Ooh, help me here please. I'm not familiar with who Reyes is; I'm still reading through the thread.
Thanks! :)
The Judge is handcuffed in what she had to give based on the law, but the charges as they stand should never have been allowed to go forward.
"I think that should be factored into the equation. So, uh, all those in favor of the verdict raise your hands again...?"
In this case, both the US Attorney and the judge were Bush appointees. It appears that the judge didn't care for the decision of the jury in that she put off the surrender date until January when they'll be appealing, but the US Attorney was all for it.
Considering they apparently didn't know they'd hit the guy, all they did was police their brass.....
U.S. Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, said Wednesday that convicting the two agents would send a strong message that irresponsible behavior on behalf of law enforcement agencies will not be tolerated.
"These guys went out of their way to cover up their actions, lie about them and get others involved," Reyes said during an editorial board meeting with the El Paso Times.
"If we don't do anything, then we run the type of corruption we don't want to see on this side of the border."
14. That the Republican party is opposed to any change in our Naturalization Laws or any State legislation by which the rights of citizenship hitherto accorded to immigrants from foreign lands shall be abridged or impaired; and in favor of giving a full and efficient protection to the rights of all classes of citizens, whether native or naturalized, both at home and abroad.
The issue is not about obstruction. Even if these Agents did what they were convicted of, this trial was a disaster, presided over and tried by unethical people that not only know nothing of the constitution but have a visceral hatred of the Border Patrol. Being a Border Patrol agent I have personal experience with the hostility the government has with agressive agents. I would like to think that despite the governments efforts to destroy me for doing the job Congress has authorized me to perform, I would be vindicated in a fair trial. I do not have confidence this would happen. I have seen so much misfeasance, malfeasance and nonfeasance by the government that the assertion these agents obstructed justice is irrelevent. They would be in the same situation if they had not been accused of obstruction.
I'm not one of the sorry ass OBL members here (heh heh) but I'd like to thank you for defending me and mine for 20 years. What branch of service?
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Characterizations of his economic stance are way off base, asserts Dobbs, who describes himself as a lifelong Republican who remains moderate in his views.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4670239/
"Nice misreading." OK, I shall post the letter to Joshua Speed in its entirety. Please read closely-
Letter to Joshua F. Speed
Abraham Lincoln
Aug. 24, 1855
Dear Speed,
You know what a poor correspondent I am. Ever since I received your very agreeable letter of the 22nd of May I have been intending to write you in answer to it. You suggest that in political action now, you and I would differ. I suppose we would; not quite as much, however, as you may think. You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. So far there is no cause of difference. But you say that sooner than yield your legal right to the slave--especially at the bidding of those who are not themselves interested, you would see the Union dissolved. I am not aware that any one is bidding you to yield that right; very certainly I am not. I leave that matter entirely to yourself. I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations, under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrewarded toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair for you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the constitution and the Union.
I do oppose the extension of slavery, because my judgment and feelings so prompt me; and I am under no obligation to the contrary. If for this you and I must differ, differ we must. You say if you were President, you would send an army and hang the leaders of the Missouri outrages upon the Kansas elections; still, if Kansas fairly votes herself a slave state, she must be admitted, or the Union must be dissolved. But how if she votes herself a slave state unfairly--that is, by the very means for which you say you would hang men? Must she still be admitted, or the Union be dissolved? That will be the phase of the question when it first becomes a practical one. In your assumption that there may be a fair decision of the slavery question in Kansas, I plainly see you and I would differ about the Nebraska-law. I look upon that enactment not as a law, but as violence from the beginning. It was conceived in violence, passed in violence, is maintained in violence, and is being executed in violence. I say it was conceived in violence, because the destruction of the Missouri Compromise, under the circumstances, was nothing less than violence. It was passed in violence, because it could not have passed at all but for the votes of many members, in violent disregard of the known will of their constituents. It is maintained in violence because the elections since, clearly demand it's repeal, and this demand is openly disregarded. You say men ought to be hung for the way they are executing that law; and I say the way it is being executed is quite as good as any of its antecedents. It is being executed in the precise way which was intended from the first; else why does no Nebraska man express astonishment or condemnation? Poor Reeder is the only public man who has been silly enough to believe that any thing like fairness was ever intended; and he has been bravely undeceived.
That Kansas will form a Slave constitution, and, with it, will ask to be admitted into the Union, I take to be an already settled question; and so settled by the very means you so pointedly condemn. By every principle of law, ever held by any court, North or South, every negro taken to Kansas is free; yet in utter disregard of this--in the spirit of violence merely--that beautiful Legislature gravely passes a law to hang men who shall venture to inform a negro of his legal rights. This is the substance, and real object of the law. If, like Haman, they should hang upon the gallows of their own building, I shall not be among the mourners for their fate.
In my humble sphere, I shall advocate the restoration of the Missouri Compromise, so long as Kansas remains a territory; and when, by all these foul means, it seeks to come into the Union as a Slave-state, I shall oppose it. I am very loth, in any case, to withhold my assent to the enjoyment of property acquired, or located, in good faith; but I do not admit that good faith, in taking a negro to Kansas, to be held in slavery, is a possibility with any man. Any man who has sense enough to be the controller of his own property, has too much sense to misunderstand the outrageous character of this whole Nebraska business. But I digress. In my opposition to the admission of Kansas I shall have some company; but we may be beaten. If we are, I shall not, on that account, attempt to dissolve the Union. On the contrary, if we succeed, there will be enough of us to take care of the Union. I think it probable, however, we shall be beaten. Standing as a unit among yourselves, you can, directly, and indirectly, bribe enough of our men to carry the day--as you could on an open proposition to establish monarchy. Get hold of some man in the North, whose position and ability is such, that he can make the support of your measure--whatever it may be--a democratic party necessity, and the thing is done. Appropos of this, let me tell you an anecdote. Douglas introduced the Nebraska bill in January. In February afterwards, there was a call session of the Illinois Legislature. Of the one hundred members composing the two branches of that body, about seventy were democrats. These latter held a caucus, in which the Nebraska bill was talked of, if not formally discussed. It was thereby discovered that just three, and no more, were in favor of the measure. In a day or two Douglas' orders came on to have resolutions passed approving the bill; and they were passed by large majorities!!! The truth of this is vouched for by a bolting democratic member. The masses too, democratic as well as whig, were even, nearer unanamous against it; but as soon as the party necessity of supporting it, became apparent, the way the democracy began to see the wisdom and justice of it, was perfectly astonishing.
You say if Kansas fairly votes herself a free state, as a christian you will rather rejoice at it. All decent slave-holders talk that way; and I do not doubt their candor. But they never vote that way. Although in a private letter, or conversation, you will express your preference that Kansas shall be free, you would vote for no man for Congress who would say the same thing publicly. No such man could be elected from any district in any slave-state. You think Stringfellow & Co. ought to be hung; and yet, at the next presidential election you will vote for the exact type and representative of Stringfellow. The slave-breeders and slave-traders, are a small, odious and detested class, among you; and yet in politics, they dictate the course of all of you, and are as completely your masters, as you are the masters of your own negroes.
You enquire where I now stand. That is a disputed point. I think I am a whig; but others say there are no whigs, and that I am an abolitionist. When I was at Washington I voted for the Wilmot Proviso as good as forty times, and I never heard of any one attempting to unwhig me for that. I now do no more than oppose the extension of slavery.
I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that “all men are created equal.” We now practically read it “all men are created equal, except negroes.” When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read “all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics.” When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty--to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.
Mary will probably pass a day or two in Louisville in October. My kindest regards to Mrs. Speed. On the leading subject of this letter, I have more of her sympathy than I have of yours.
And yet let say I am
Your friend forever
A. Lincoln--
Thanks, saving the video for later.
There is no question that border violence is increasing.
Gee, it is so difficult to understand how there might be any animosity toward people that allow crimes to happen. Not to cast aspersion on everyone. Reality is harsh.
They weren't convicted of falsifying or failure to report. They were convicted of obstruction of justice.
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