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BREAKING NEWS: Two Border Patrol Agents who wounded a drug smuggler given 11 and 12 years prison.
Lou Dobbs / CNN | 10-19-06 | no dems

Posted on 10/19/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by no dems

Edited on 10/19/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Ex-border agents sentenced for shooting smuggler
AP

EL PASO, Texas -- Two former U.S. Border Patrol agents were each sentenced Thursday to more than a decade in federal prison for shooting a Mexican drug smuggler and then trying to cover it up.

Ignacio Ramos was sentenced to 11 years and one day, and Jose Alonso Compean was sentenced to 12 years. Both were fired after their convictions on several charges including assault with a deadly weapon, obstruction of justice, and a civil rights violation.

The men, neither of whom spoke in court, will be allowed to turn themselves in Jan. 17.

The agents have proclaimed their innocence in the Feb. 17, 2005, shooting of admitted drug smuggler Osvlado Aldrete Davila.

Aldrete was shot in the buttocks as he fled across the Rio Grande into Mexico after a confrontation with Ramos and Compean. The agents said they shot in self defense, but prosecutors charged that they had no reason to shoot at the fleeing man, who later claimed he was unarmed.

Since their convictions, support for the agents has swelled. Several prominent law makers, including U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, the Wisconsin Republican who chairs the House judiciary committee, have even called for a Congressional investigation into the agents' prosecutions.

The union representing most rank and file Border Patrol agents established a legal defense fund. And civilian border watch groups have asked the U.S. Attorney General's office to review the case and throw out the jury's guilty verdicts.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: agents; aliens; bds; border; borderagents; bordersecurity; davila; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; mexico
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To: Ladycalif

Dang. The glint off of the windshield might attract a CBP agent to shake down your great grandfather. Depth perception is an important factor. Not that I am dissin' the eyepatch.


481 posted on 10/19/2006 7:19:52 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Dane
Uh Bush had nothing to do with it.

If you don't think that this came from Bush, or at the very least has his blessing, you are extremely naive.

But then again, it's you, Dane, so I don't expect that logic will be a part of any discussion with you.
482 posted on 10/19/2006 7:19:59 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: PRND21
Freepers defending obstruction of justice isn't pretty.

Neither is defending a drug smuggler.

483 posted on 10/19/2006 7:20:40 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: MikefromOhio
Still Mike, if Gonzales tells them they have to carry guns and the guns are used and that is a relevant part of the conviction, then it's Gonzales fault.

Seems to me Gonzales should have attended the trial to defend the agents lest he, himself, end up in the slammer.

It's not too late to send himand he should get along quite well with a third of the prisoners.

484 posted on 10/19/2006 7:21:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PRND21
Innocent? You haven't followed the case.

Neither have you.

485 posted on 10/19/2006 7:21:26 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin
Who is suing the US for $5 million
486 posted on 10/19/2006 7:21:58 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
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To: Ladycalif
One thing that should be given serious thought is the Follow The Money angle. Escaped driver is conveying between a half million and a million dollars worth of drugs. We may then conclude that he is working for some heavy-duty mobsters and didn't just grow the stuff in his back garden. He lost the shipment because of these two BP agents.

Thinking outside the box a bit what if the purveyors of this shipment had ummm, business partners, on the North side of the Rio Grande. Why it could even be possible that such associates might occupy positions of official importance------like say as prosecutors or judges {or even, dare I say it, Attorneys General}.

One could certainly understand their dismay and desire for retribution at the loss of that new ski-boat, vacation in Vail, etc. Maybe retribution to the point of sending Federal Agents into Mexico to seek out our errant chauffer and lodging him in the safe confines of Ft Bliss for treatmnet and protection and putting on a Stalinist-style show trial to help intimidate other Border Patrol hired hands into being less diligent.

487 posted on 10/19/2006 7:23:23 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Ladycalif

The drug smuggler.


488 posted on 10/19/2006 7:23:27 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Ladycalif
Nothing like doing the will of the people to get them to vote for you!

Don't kid yourself.

489 posted on 10/19/2006 7:23:41 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: Ajnin

They do want those border open, don't they?


490 posted on 10/19/2006 7:23:48 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
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To: muawiyah

unless they used it to shoot a fleeing felon, which should've been covered in their training.

This thread is hilarious.


491 posted on 10/19/2006 7:23:52 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (FEAR THE SWEATERVEST!!!)
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To: PRND21
Source? They were both convicted of falsifying their reports.

No, they were not convicted of falsifying.

492 posted on 10/19/2006 7:24:14 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Rockpile

Ramos was the number one agent for stopping drug shipments.


493 posted on 10/19/2006 7:25:00 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

What law enforcement agency did you used to work for?


494 posted on 10/19/2006 7:27:32 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: MikefromOhio
There were people all over the place, and the "felon" was not exactly fleeing ~ he was trying to cross the border. Until he did so he was surrounded.

He'd been lawfully followed for a considerable amount of time earlier.

The reasons for this trial simply do not leap out of the events at the border.

495 posted on 10/19/2006 7:28:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Stone Mountain

Who do you think gave the DOJ this info, the agents or the drug smuggler? Who got immunity? Who is trying to prosecute?
What side of the story do you think the DOJ report will tell?


496 posted on 10/19/2006 7:29:48 PM PDT by Tspud1
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To: muawiyah

The Border Patrol has always been armed. There used to be occasional nighttime shootouts across the river that lasted for hours in the old days.


497 posted on 10/19/2006 7:31:47 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Good does not need to hide

It does when it's outlawed. I notice you keep hiding from my question about whaat police det. you worked for. Maybe you never worked for one.

498 posted on 10/19/2006 7:34:14 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Rockpile
BTW, who the hell says that Drug Driver Scum was unarmed? Why that comes from Drug Driver Scum himself doesn't it?

What happened to the dope and the van?

499 posted on 10/19/2006 7:35:29 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Ladycalif
See Post #31.

Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C., circulated a letter Thursday among his colleagues that slammed federal statute 924(c), which addresses discharging a firearm in relation to a crime of violence. Conviction under the statute carries a minimum 10-year sentence in federal prison.

Jones and five other members of the caucus - including Reps. Gary Miller, R-Diamond Bar, Dana Rohrbacher, R-Huntington Beach, and Ed Royce, R-Fullerton - contend in the letter that El Paso, Texas, area Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean should not have been charged under the statute because carrying a firearm was a necessary part of their jobs, and that they used the firearms whle on duty.

"Yesterday (Tuesday), a motion to delay sentencing for Ramos and Compean was denied. Sentencing is now scheduled for Thursday, Oct. 19," the letter reads. "We urge you to take any action you can to either delay this sentencing or have the ... charges dropped.

"This statute has historically been used in violent crime and drug trafficking cases. It has also been applied to law enforcement when necessary, however, based on past applications of 924(c) to law enforcement, it appears that its application in the present case is unwarranted."

The other two House members who signed the letter were Rep. Darryl Issa, R-Vista, and Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. It then was forwarded to President Bush and Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, which has scheduled hearings on Ramos and Compean's case in late November.

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I can't find who is responsible for "federal statute 924(c)"

500 posted on 10/19/2006 7:35:31 PM PDT by Alia
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