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BREAKING NEWS: Two Border Patrol Agents who wounded a drug smuggler given 11 and 12 years prison.
Lou Dobbs / CNN
| 10-19-06
| no dems
Posted on 10/19/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by no dems
Edited on 10/19/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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Ex-border agents sentenced for shooting smuggler
AP
EL PASO, Texas -- Two former U.S. Border Patrol agents were each sentenced Thursday to more than a decade in federal prison for shooting a Mexican drug smuggler and then trying to cover it up.
Ignacio Ramos was sentenced to 11 years and one day, and Jose Alonso Compean was sentenced to 12 years. Both were fired after their convictions on several charges including assault with a deadly weapon, obstruction of justice, and a civil rights violation.
The men, neither of whom spoke in court, will be allowed to turn themselves in Jan. 17.
The agents have proclaimed their innocence in the Feb. 17, 2005, shooting of admitted drug smuggler Osvlado Aldrete Davila.
Aldrete was shot in the buttocks as he fled across the Rio Grande into Mexico after a confrontation with Ramos and Compean. The agents said they shot in self defense, but prosecutors charged that they had no reason to shoot at the fleeing man, who later claimed he was unarmed.
Since their convictions, support for the agents has swelled. Several prominent law makers, including U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, the Wisconsin Republican who chairs the House judiciary committee, have even called for a Congressional investigation into the agents' prosecutions.
The union representing most rank and file Border Patrol agents established a legal defense fund. And civilian border watch groups have asked the U.S. Attorney General's office to review the case and throw out the jury's guilty verdicts.
TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: agents; aliens; bds; border; borderagents; bordersecurity; davila; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; mexico
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To: rmlew
First of screwball, I am not a dude.
Secondly, yes, Dobb's is a Marxist democrat.
441
posted on
10/19/2006 6:54:51 PM PDT
by
onyx
(We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
To: Rockpile
Well, well, well, well. So several other agents and TWO SUPERVISORS were ON THE SCENE were they? And they all knew what had happened. Hmmm.
I believe that if these two guys didn't take the stand in their own defense then they---and their lawyers--- made a serious mistake.
To: madison10
They were given improper instructions on the need for unanimity in voting for conviction.
They were also misquoted the relevant law.
443
posted on
10/19/2006 6:55:51 PM PDT
by
rmlew
(DeathKlok Rules!)
To: Rockpile
There were many agents at the scene.
444
posted on
10/19/2006 6:55:55 PM PDT
by
Ladycalif
(Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
To: rmlew
The system always works. And OJ is innocent.
445
posted on
10/19/2006 6:56:34 PM PDT
by
Ladycalif
(Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
To: Ladycalif
I am think drugs should be legal and I think innocent people should not go to prison. Iam think droogs is bad, hmmmmm. Me am ulso thunk unnosent peeopples shud nut hab tu go tu prizn, cuz dey mite beeze not giltee ob da tiinng dat Booshitler an al o dee debils kunbicted dem ob. Proper spelling and grammatical structure carry bonus points. Good evening.
446
posted on
10/19/2006 6:57:47 PM PDT
by
ARealMothersSonForever
(We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
To: Ladycalif
They should not have been convicted. They were guilty of A procedural error. At most.
LOL!! Have you actually READ the story yet? Do you know they were convicted of a couple other things as well???? Do I need to spell it out for you????
Apparently a jury of their peers disagreed.
447
posted on
10/19/2006 6:59:12 PM PDT
by
MikefromOhio
(FEAR THE SWEATERVEST!!!)
To: Rockpile
448
posted on
10/19/2006 6:59:34 PM PDT
by
Ladycalif
(Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
To: MikefromOhio
I know they were convicted. Just someone is convicted does not mean they are guilty. Just because OJ was acquitted does not mean he was innocent.
449
posted on
10/19/2006 7:01:09 PM PDT
by
Ladycalif
(Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
To: ARealMothersSonForever
450
posted on
10/19/2006 7:01:40 PM PDT
by
Ladycalif
(Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
To: rmlew
Geeze, I thought everyone on FR knew Dobbs was a Marxist Dem. You must be the one drinking Lou's koolaide if you don't acknowledge the obvious. Start paying attention for crying' out loud!!!
451
posted on
10/19/2006 7:01:53 PM PDT
by
demkicker
(democrats, terrorists, Powell, McCain, Graham & Collins are intimate bedfellows)
To: MikefromOhio
Mike baby, this was a kangaroo court organized by Gonzales and some of his little friends to show that he's tough on Mexican-Americans too.
Don'[t know why thinks he needs that, but it's something ~ maybe we ought to review some of our other Gonzales threads to see what precipitated this problem of his.
To: ARealMothersSonForever
Posts that contain an inkling of intelligent thought should also count for something in contrast to your slavering drivel. Good evening.
To: muawiyah; MikefromOhio
Immediately across the line there is no American law.May the Lord shed his Grace upon you. Right and Wrong are universal. No matter the "line" in ones mind. There are some fine conservative Americans that are trying very hard to help you, and everyone else on this thread comprehend and appreciate these things.
454
posted on
10/19/2006 7:03:50 PM PDT
by
ARealMothersSonForever
(We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
To: muawiyah
455
posted on
10/19/2006 7:05:00 PM PDT
by
Ladycalif
(Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
To: no dems
Lou Dobbs hates President Bush and the Republican Party as much a any raging liberal.
456
posted on
10/19/2006 7:06:59 PM PDT
by
jveritas
(Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
To: COEXERJ145
457
posted on
10/19/2006 7:07:27 PM PDT
by
jveritas
(Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
To: Ladycalif
what does OJ have to do with it? The answer is nothing.
And you didn't know they had been convicted until I pointed it out too you.
458
posted on
10/19/2006 7:07:58 PM PDT
by
MikefromOhio
(FEAR THE SWEATERVEST!!!)
To: MikefromOhio
Of course I did. I was on the phone with Texas off and on all afternoon.
459
posted on
10/19/2006 7:08:44 PM PDT
by
Ladycalif
(Free Ramos and Compean. Free the Border Patrol)
To: muawiyah
listen to yourself.
These 2 guys screwed the pooch SERIOUSLY, committed a felony, but all you guys can do is blame Gonzales?
Are you friggin kidding?
I guess the term Obstruction of Justice is up for debate here. You are taking a very LIBERAL view of the statues involved.
460
posted on
10/19/2006 7:09:26 PM PDT
by
MikefromOhio
(FEAR THE SWEATERVEST!!!)
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